Anybody picking Chino

[Rantcatrat]

By the way, did anyone notice Floyd is making $32 MM for this fight and Chino is making $1.5? How much did Marcos make for his fight against Broner?

[Beanflicker]

Well, besides the obvious fact that Vegas odds makers are far from infallible and odds don't really accurately represent the dangers of fighting an elite level boxer, I think the odds difference can be explained largely by the fact that Canelo was the much bigger man who Floyd was moving up to fight, and was also undefeated.

Maidana is a rough customer and he's not going to quit or beat himself in there. He's going to come out firing and make Mayweather work. This is not a "gimme" fight. The odds would have been equally bad (or at least close to it) if it was Khan fighting him as well. It's just a testament to how dominant Floyd is in the sport.

[Rantcatrat]

Well, besides the obvious fact that Vegas odds makers are far from infallible and odds don't really accurately represent the dangers of fighting an elite level boxer, I think the odds difference can be explained largely by the fact that Canelo was the much bigger man who Floyd was moving up to fight, and was also undefeated.

Maidana is a rough customer and he's not going to quit or beat himself in there. He's going to come out firing and make Mayweather work. This is not a "gimme" fight. The odds would have been equally bad (or at least close to it) if it was Khan fighting him as well. It's just a testament to how dominant Floyd is in the sport.

Perhaps not a "gimme" fight depending on how you define "gimme, "but this is a very easy fight for Floyd. How many times has he beat guys with Maidana's style?

[g3org3]

I'm not even picking chino to win a round.
Did any1 see the face off sounds as if this could be maywathers last fight.

[Beanflicker]

Perhaps not a "gimme" fight depending on how you define "gimme, "but this is a very easy fight for Floyd. How many times has he beat guys with Maidana's style?

I'm not saying I'm picking Maidana or even that I think Floyd ISN'T going to win a lopsided decision.

What I'm saying is that Maidana is a world class prizefighter with big punching power and an incredibly aggressive style and he's not going to beat himself. Floyd's going to have to go in there and work for it. These guys aren't coming in to make Floyd look good, they're coming in to cash in a lottery ticket and dethrone the biggest name in the sport.

On paper does this look like another lopsided decision for Floyd? Sure. But I don't like hearing people talking about "easy" wins, especially with a guy like Maidana.

People were saying the same shit about Maidana when they announced he was fighting Broner. People were accusing Broner of cherry-picking Maidana to look good. Maidana is a rough customer.

[Rantcatrat]

Perhaps not a "gimme" fight depending on how you define "gimme, "but this is a very easy fight for Floyd. How many times has he beat guys with Maidana's style?

I'm not saying I'm picking Maidana or even that I think Floyd ISN'T going to win a lopsided decision.

What I'm saying is that Maidana is a world class prizefighter with big punching power and an incredibly aggressive style and he's not going to beat himself. Floyd's going to have to go in there and work for it. These guys aren't coming in to make Floyd look good, they're coming in to cash in a lottery ticket and dethrone the biggest name in the sport.

On paper does this look like another lopsided decision for Floyd? Sure. But I don't like hearing people talking about "easy" wins, especially with a guy like Maidana.

People were saying the same shit about Maidana when they announced he was fighting Broner. People were accusing Broner of cherry-picking Maidana to look good. Maidana is a rough customer.

What would be an "easy win" for you? For my money, Canelo was not an "easy win," nor was Cotto.

Guerrero, Ortiz and Baldomir were easy fights for a champion like Mayweather. Those aren't easy fights for most other people, but for Mayweather, they're easy fights.

Lepai beat up Boystov who was a world-level competitor to get himself into the ring with Wlad. Lepai is a relatively accomplished professional, but, I'm sorry, that was an easy fight for Wlad. Lepai is still a big Samoan with a big punch, but the outcome was predetermined. Maidana is a tougher opponent in a p4p sense than Lepai, but he's an easy opponent nonetheless.

Maidana presents nothing Floyd hasn't seen before. There is no suspense as to what the outcome will be like there was at least a little bit with Canelo. He's not faster; he doesn't punch harder; he's not smarter; he's not bigger; and he's not more technically savvy than Floyd's previous opponents. In every single category you would look at to compare with Mayweather, Maidana loses.

Maidana was a tough outing for Broner, but so was Paulie. Broner is no Mayweather.

[Beanflicker]

I'm looking forward to the fight, I have a feeling Maidana is going to prove himself worthy to be in there. I don't think he'll win, but I think he'll make a fight out of it.

I think he'll do better than Canelo... and you can quote me on that!

VIVA ARGENTINA!!!

[Master]

You are getting excited about nothing, this is a slow and hand-picked opponent and if Floyd does not stop him then it is a poor performance. You can quote me on that too.

[Beanflicker]

But if you want to know what I call an easy fight... look no further than Broner's opponent. A guy with limited experience on the world stage, a guy who's been inactive for two years, doesn't have a big punch, and has no momentum.

An easy opponent is a guy you can bring your B or C game to and still win. An easy opponent is a tune-up, a night off, a keep busy fight to look good in.

I don't view Maidana as an easy opponent for anyone because of his power, his tenacity, his unorthodox power punching style and his experience on the world stage. I don't believe he's a guy that's a night off, or a guy who you can go up against after a half-assed camp. If you sleep on this guy, he's going to knock you out, and that goes for anyone, even Floyd.

So that's my answer. I predict Floyd will beat him because Floyd never comes in half assed and always brings his A-game, which is a big reason why he's gone 18 years without a loss. I just don't see him as an easy night for Floyd, and I don't think Victor Ortiz was an easy fight for Floyd either.

[cyclone]

I'm looking forward to the fight, I have a feeling Maidana is going to prove himself worthy to be in there. I don't think he'll win, but I think he'll make a fight out of it.

I think he'll do better than Canelo... and you can quote me on that!

VIVA ARGENTINA!!!

Maidana isn't a jr MW like Canelo....he won't be able to take those shots.

[Rantcatrat]

I'm looking forward to the fight, I have a feeling Maidana is going to prove himself worthy to be in there. I don't think he'll win, but I think he'll make a fight out of it.

I think he'll do better than Canelo... and you can quote me on that!

VIVA ARGENTINA!!!

On that basis, you would look forward to any fight with Maidana in it, which is a fair point because he's fun to watch, but some fights are so one-sided even with a fun fighter, they're just not good fights.

I'll go on the record to say that Maidana will gradually get broken down and stopped late or lose badly on the cards just as the odds makers predicted. It'll be more fun than the Canelo fight because he'll push the action but the beat down will be worse.

Maidana would be a fine opponent for Mayweather if Mayweather was coming off a loss. Coming off a good win, he's just not good.

What has Maidana done at welterweight anyway?

[Beanflicker]

By the way, did anyone notice Floyd is making $32 MM for this fight and Chino is making $1.5? How much did Marcos make for his fight against Broner?

I think $800,000 but I could be wrong.

[p4pking]

I don't think Maidana is any tougher or grittier than Robert Guerrero or Canelo, and the latter guy would clearly kill him. Watch his fight with Alexander, he was totally lost in there and looked just like those guys did fighting Floyd. I give him virtually zero chance here as well.

[zhubin]

I think Maidana's power is being over hyped. I don't think he is a KO artist at 147 at all. The Broner fight isn't a great barometer either...Broner had no business at 147 so quickly, he is much easier to hit than Floyd, and even though Maidana stunned Broner...he by no means BADLY hurt him.

[Master]

No but we are all hoping.