What happens to the fighters signed by GB and Haymon when Golden Boy implodes soon?

[Violent Demise]

It has to be asked. If Schaefer parts ways with GB to start a new company with Haymon, and GB hires someone else to run the promotion company, can the fighters signed with Golden Boy leave to fight with Haymon? I assume that they have contracts with Golden Boy that would need to be fulfilled first, right?

Haymon is considered a manager. Not a promotor. So if the fighter has a contract with Golden Boy, they will continue to be promoted by Golden Boy till the contract runs it's course.

[Kirkland Laing]

Click this link

http://www.boxingscene.com/Complaint.pdf

and you can read Main Events's version of the Stevenson-Kovalev controversy. They think Schaefer and Haymon are working together. Also at the link is a copy of an Al Haymon standard management contract.

Schaefer has been using fighters on shows that are signed to Haymon and not Golden Boy. Oscar just said he was surprised to discover this recently and he also doesn't know how many fighters GBP actually has under contract. This shows how much he's been involved with the business in recent years. Obviously Schaefer and Haymon either have plans to split or Schaefer has been doing this so that he can increase the control he has at GBP.

Oscar also said lawyers have been retained on both sides but he thinks they can work it out and keep Schaefer at GBP. I'm not so sure. Once lawyers get involved they've got their own fucking agenda. Like dovorces.

[Rantcatrat]

Click this link

http://www.boxingscene.com/Complaint.pdf

and you can read Main Events's version of the Stevenson-Kovalev controversy. They think Schaefer and Haymon are working together. Also at the link is a copy of an Al Haymon standard management contract.

Schaefer has been using fighters on shows that are signed to Haymon and not Golden Boy. Oscar just said he was surprised to discover this recently and he also doesn't know how many fighters GBP actually has under contract. This shows how much he's been involved with the business in recent years. Obviously Schaefer and Haymon either have plans to split or Schaefer has been doing this so that he can increase the control he has at GBP.

Oscar also said lawyers have been retained on both sides but he thinks they can work it out and keep Schaefer at GBP. I'm not so sure. Once lawyers get involved they've got their own fucking agenda. Like dovorces.

It would seem to be a breach of fiduciary duty for Schaefer to build up fighters without signing them because GB would be investing money in the fighters only to see them leave when they reach a level where they are big enough to be a return on investment.

[Kirkland Laing]

Click this link

http://www.boxingscene.com/Complaint.pdf

and you can read Main Events's version of the Stevenson-Kovalev controversy. They think Schaefer and Haymon are working together. Also at the link is a copy of an Al Haymon standard management contract.

Schaefer has been using fighters on shows that are signed to Haymon and not Golden Boy. Oscar just said he was surprised to discover this recently and he also doesn't know how many fighters GBP actually has under contract. This shows how much he's been involved with the business in recent years. Obviously Schaefer and Haymon either have plans to split or Schaefer has been doing this so that he can increase the control he has at GBP.

Oscar also said lawyers have been retained on both sides but he thinks they can work it out and keep Schaefer at GBP. I'm not so sure. Once lawyers get involved they've got their own fucking agenda. Like dovorces.

It would seem to be a breach of fiduciary duty for Schaefer to build up fighters without signing them because GB would be investing money in the fighters only to see them leave when they reach a level where they are big enough to be a return on investment.

He can claim Haymon wouldn't let them sign contracts but he needed them to make fights so he used them on a fight by fight basis. That's the kind of thing that Oscar's lawyers will be claiming if/when it gets to the litigation stage. Apparently they both shook hands on Saturday night at the fight and were sitting next to each other. So see what happens.

[Rantcatrat]

Click this link

http://www.boxingscene.com/Complaint.pdf

and you can read Main Events's version of the Stevenson-Kovalev controversy. They think Schaefer and Haymon are working together. Also at the link is a copy of an Al Haymon standard management contract.

Schaefer has been using fighters on shows that are signed to Haymon and not Golden Boy. Oscar just said he was surprised to discover this recently and he also doesn't know how many fighters GBP actually has under contract. This shows how much he's been involved with the business in recent years. Obviously Schaefer and Haymon either have plans to split or Schaefer has been doing this so that he can increase the control he has at GBP.

Oscar also said lawyers have been retained on both sides but he thinks they can work it out and keep Schaefer at GBP. I'm not so sure. Once lawyers get involved they've got their own fucking agenda. Like dovorces.

It would seem to be a breach of fiduciary duty for Schaefer to build up fighters without signing them because GB would be investing money in the fighters only to see them leave when they reach a level where they are big enough to be a return on investment.

He can claim Haymon wouldn't let them sign contracts but he needed them to make fights so he used them on a fight by fight basis. That's the kind of thing that Oscar's lawyers will be claiming if/when it gets to the litigation stage. Apparently they both shook hands on Saturday night at the fight and were sitting next to each other. So see what happens.

Promoters promote fights with other promoters' fighters all the time, but they're one-time events. To build up a fighter but not have him under contract makes no financial sense. What's to say that the fighter wouldn't go to another promoter at any moment?

He might claim that Haymon wouldn't let them sign with GB. More likely though, he'll claim that Schaefer used GB for his own benefit to the expense of GB. On the surface and with knowing very little of the details, it sounds like there might be something to it.

[Rantcatrat]

For a while, we all thought it was Golden Boy on one side and Top Rank on the other side. If it turns out that Golden Boy was just a tool for Schaefer to funnel fighters to Haymon, and Golden Boy is really a shell of a corporation, Schaefer will have answering to do.

[Ron Swanson]

For a while, we all thought it was Golden Boy on one side and Top Rank on the other side. If it turns out that Golden Boy was just a tool for Schaefer to funnel fighters to Haymon, and Golden Boy is really a shell of a corporation, Schaefer will have answering to do.

Shaefer is a smart person. A weasel but a smart weasel. As long as can show that his model was increasing profits he's safe. What I suspect happened is Shaefer saw all the ground Haymon was gaining so he decided to straddle the fence and pick a side when it became clear who was taking over. Now that Haymon is strong enough he flat dared Oscar to fire him. What does he care he has a contract through 2018 he'd get a huge buyout and he just goes to Haymon and they partner with Main Event. Shaefer played it right, Oscar would be a fool to fire Shaefer because his stable would be gutted. The fighters go to Haymon to be like Floyd or TR to try for Manny money. Oscar would have no whale.

[Kirkland Laing]

Click this link

http://www.boxingscene.com/Complaint.pdf

and you can read Main Events's version of the Stevenson-Kovalev controversy. They think Schaefer and Haymon are working together. Also at the link is a copy of an Al Haymon standard management contract.

Schaefer has been using fighters on shows that are signed to Haymon and not Golden Boy. Oscar just said he was surprised to discover this recently and he also doesn't know how many fighters GBP actually has under contract. This shows how much he's been involved with the business in recent years. Obviously Schaefer and Haymon either have plans to split or Schaefer has been doing this so that he can increase the control he has at GBP.

Oscar also said lawyers have been retained on both sides but he thinks they can work it out and keep Schaefer at GBP. I'm not so sure. Once lawyers get involved they've got their own fucking agenda. Like dovorces.

It would seem to be a breach of fiduciary duty for Schaefer to build up fighters without signing them because GB would be investing money in the fighters only to see them leave when they reach a level where they are big enough to be a return on investment.

He can claim Haymon wouldn't let them sign contracts but he needed them to make fights so he used them on a fight by fight basis. That's the kind of thing that Oscar's lawyers will be claiming if/when it gets to the litigation stage. Apparently they both shook hands on Saturday night at the fight and were sitting next to each other. So see what happens.

Promoters promote fights with other promoters' fighters all the time, but they're one-time events. To build up a fighter but not have him under contract makes no financial sense. What's to say that the fighter wouldn't go to another promoter at any moment?

He might claim that Haymon wouldn't let them sign with GB. More likely though, he'll claim that Schaefer used GB for his own benefit to the expense of GB. On the surface and with knowing very little of the details, it sounds like there might be something to it.

Oscar's lawyers will definitely do that if it comes to it. But Schaefer will say he had no choice if he wanted to make the fights or something similar.