Which is the biggest reason for Floyd's struggles tonight?

[ykdadamaja]

I had this fight scored a draw.... if Maidana had won rounds 11 like he did 12, he would have won by one point on my cards.

With that being said, I knew it would have gone something like this. Maidana is good at what he does, and Floyd can't deal very well with volume punchers- Maidana, Manny, Agustus were volume punchers.

When you can average 60 punches a round against Floyd, you are in the fight. For real.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Maidana didn't land all that much. It wasn't that close

[DannyV297]

Maidana didn't land all that much. It wasn't that close

He didn't land as much as he should've. Those clubbing overhand punches against the ropes were worthless. What he should've done is stepped back and evened out his shots and focused on the body more against the ropes. That being said, Floud did feel his power and showed it by grasping.

[cyclone]

Maidana didn't land all that much. It wasn't that close

He didn't land as much as he should've. Those clubbing overhand punches against the ropes were worthless. What he should've done is stepped back and evened out his shots and focused on the body more against the ropes. That being said, Floud did feel his power and showed it by grasping.

Floyd was landing good counter shots to the body off the ropes...those were hardly "worthless".Scoring blows are never worthless in a prize-fight.

[Max Power]

Not as dominant as I expected (I thought it might be a late KO) but still a clear victory for Floyd (some wad reckons it was a "draw" above, must be C J Ross's husband lol).

You should have added a FOURTH possibility...

Imo the most accurate one...

4. Maybe, just maybe, he had a bad night.. And maybe in addition, Marcos had a good night. That's life!

Seems like a passable reason to me for the champ.

But credit to Maidana, he's no fluke now, he's a serious factor in the division.

His performance against Floyd will probably make Broner feel a little better now LOL. Maybe we'll hear that mouth open again soon!!

[cyclone]

Not as dominant as I expected (I thought it might be a late KO) but still a clear victory for Floyd (some wad reckons it was a "draw" above, must be C J Ross's husband lol).

You should have added a FOURTH possibility...

Imo the most accurate one...

4. Maybe, just maybe, he had a bad night.. And maybe in addition, Marcos had a good night. That's life!

Seems like a passable reason to me for the champ.

But credit to Maidana, he's no fluke now, he's a serious factor in the division.

His performance against Floyd will probably make Broner feel a little better now LOL. Maybe we'll hear that mouth open again soon!!

What did Maidana actually accomplish besides pushing Floyd against the ropes?

He got beat on the inside and the outside.

[KananKrus]

She carried Maidana all the way to the final bell... to make it seem like this fight was competitive. Meanwhile, Maidana made sure that his right hand hit nothing but air... all twelve rounds. A sleeper of a fight!

[Gandalf]

Not as dominant as I expected (I thought it might be a late KO) but still a clear victory for Floyd (some wad reckons it was a "draw" above, must be C J Ross's husband lol).

You should have added a FOURTH possibility...

Imo the most accurate one...

4. Maybe, just maybe, he had a bad night.. And maybe in addition, Marcos had a good night. That's life!

Seems like a passable reason to me for the champ.

But credit to Maidana, he's no fluke now, he's a serious factor in the division.

His performance against Floyd will probably make Broner feel a little better now LOL. Maybe we'll hear that mouth open again soon!!

What did Maidana actually accomplish besides pushing Floyd against the ropes?

He got beat on the inside and the outside.

Maidana landed over 200 punches against one of the most effective defensive savvy fighters in the world. He outlanded Mayweather in half the rounds. He did effective work on the inside and outside, just as Mayweather did in the rounds he did well in.

In response to the OP, I think Mayweather prepares hard for every fight, but perhaps expected Maidana to be on the level of Guerrero and be coming at him slow and be countered accordingly. Maybe also with thoughts of Gatti in mind too. However, Mayweather is 37 and at the lighter weights fighters always slip at around this age. Mayweather got Mosley at the right time and in turn Maidana got Mayweather at the right time. I don't think Mayweather has his legs for 3 minutes a round anymore and only became semi-elusive after Maidana had worked so hard in the first half of the fight. I think it is just down to age. Cotto showed glimpses of it and now a few years on I think there is further erosion.

I know that sounds like I am discrediting Maidana, who I think actually won the fight, but I don't think he would have walked through the Mayweather of 2008 so easily. Maidana is awkward and difficult, but Amir Khan showed for the first half of their fight how to evade him. Maidana has probably improved too, but advanced age can only mean deterioration for Mayweather too. The man has a practically white beard, he is aging and auditioning for the role of King Lear.

Mayweather was getting ploughed from the off here. I hate to say it, but I think Khan could also outwork Mayweather. He is just old and I don't think he is Calzaghe smart in knowing when to get out. Maybe he flattens Maidana in the rematch, but he is only going to get older. Sam Peter was never as skilled as James Toney, but younger and bigger will happen to someone who doesn't get out at the right time.

[Max Power]

Not as dominant as I expected (I thought it might be a late KO) but still a clear victory for Floyd (some wad reckons it was a "draw" above, must be C J Ross's husband lol).

You should have added a FOURTH possibility...

Imo the most accurate one...

4. Maybe, just maybe, he had a bad night.. And maybe in addition, Marcos had a good night. That's life!

Seems like a passable reason to me for the champ.

But credit to Maidana, he's no fluke now, he's a serious factor in the division.

His performance against Floyd will probably make Broner feel a little better now LOL. Maybe we'll hear that mouth open again soon!!

What did Maidana actually accomplish besides pushing Floyd against the ropes?

He got beat on the inside and the outside.

In case you can't tell I'm trying to be gracious to Marcos here, of course Floyd won a comfortable decision. I am giving Maidana a bit of credit for roughing Floyd a bit whereas previously thought he'd simply knock Maidana out. I am just dead against ascribing any perceived drop in performance to his age!!!

[ykdadamaja]

Maidana didn't land all that much. It wasn't that close

He didn't land as much as he should've. Those clubbing overhand punches against the ropes were worthless. What he should've done is stepped back and evened out his shots and focused on the body more against the ropes. That being said, Floud did feel his power and showed it by grasping.

I was waiting for someone to bring up Floyd's holding.... that's the most I have seen Money hold like that, ever. Floyd NEVER holds....

[Violent Demise]

Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one

[cyclone]

Mayweather struggle is part illusion. Maidana did well. He pressure Mayweather and landed his punches. The fact that it's been years since anybody did that to Floyd makes many believe he really struggled. In reality he didn't struggle. He was just in a hard fight. Boxing is suppose to be hard. It's just been so easy for him for so long it's a shock when he has a hard one

^^^^Real talk....And that's coming from a guy that doesn't even like Floyd.



I didn't see Floyd get hit with anything silly...and as Broner can tell you...Maidana throws from some silly angles.

[Beanflicker]

Anyone who thinks it was Floyd getting old in there is a jackass.

This is a brand new Chino who was supremely prepared and came in with a fantastic game plan. He fought great defensively: Floyd had more trouble hitting him clean than I remember of any Floyd opponent in a long time. And that wasn't a fluke. Floyd landed at a high %, but most of those landed shots were either partially blocked or Chino was rolling away from.

Chino mixed up his attack and really kept Floyd guessing. Sometimes he'd bullrush, sometimes he'd sit behind a very effective power-jab that was clearly bothering Floyd at times, and sometimes he'd become the boxer/puncher looking to set up a haymaker.

Mayweather had a tough night in there and almost lost the fight. Chino turned the heat up and fought his fight a lot of the rounds. It's very rare to see someone else dictating the pace of a fight against Mayweather.

[Beanflicker]

I should clarify that yeah, Floyd IS getting old and has been getting "old" for the past few years. Floyd is out of his prime and is nowhere near as quick as he once was.

But it's stupid to use that as a reason. This Floyd was no difference than the Floyd who completely whitewashed Canelo last year.

[fan johnny]

I should clarify that yeah, Floyd IS getting old and has been getting "old" for the past few years. Floyd is out of his prime and is nowhere near as quick as he once was.

But it's stupid to use that as a reason. This Floyd was no difference than the Floyd who completely whitewashed Canelo last year.

As much as alvarez look good against other fighters, he learn against floyd that there is another level he hasn't worked hard enough to reach.

I agree old age signs have been showing with mayweather since mosley, but his outside style and lack of brain hits is prolonging his game.