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Re: Is Mayweather a all time great?
An All-Time Great should have Great takedown defense, and Mayweather certainly doesn't have that as evidenced by how easily Maidana tackled him and took him down so easily in the 11th rd last night, and Floyd doesn't know how to breakfall properly either, breakfall to protect oneself. Yep, Rousey by armbar if that fight ever happened...
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He's a first ballot Hall of Fame fighter.
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Without a doubt. He's beaten the likes of Hatton, Judah, Corrales, Marquez, Cotto, Canelo, Genaro, and Guerrero.
If he beats the Thurman-Porter winner, Lara if he beats Canelo, and the winner of Cotto-Martinez, he'll be a top 20 ATG.
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He's definitely an ATG but on the bottom of the list near Whitaker...
He's clearly below the likes of Leonard and Duran..
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LOL, only then eh? Care to name 20 guys who deserved to be ranked above Mayweather p4p of all time?Originally Posted by VG_Addict
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1. Sugar Ray RobinsonCare to name 20 guys who deserved to be ranked above Mayweather p4p of all time?
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali
4. Joe Louis
5. Roberto Duran
6. Willie Pep
7. Harry Greb
8. Benny Leonard
9. Manny Pacquiao
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Pernell Whitaker
11. Carlos Monzon
12. Rocky Marciano
13. Ezzard Charles
14. Archie Moore
15. Sandy Saddler
16. Jack Dempsey
17. Marvin Hagler
18. Julio Cesar Chavez
19. Eder Jofre
20. Alexis Arguello
21. Barney Ross
22. Evander Holyfield
23. Ike Williams
24. Salvador Sanchez
25. George Foreman
26. Kid Gavilian
27. Larry Holmes
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I think if mayweather is not rated as an all time great then it's impossible to be rated as an atg in this generation... Not sure what else he can do, he's 37 and still beating guys who gain 18.5 pounds after the weigh in whilst floyd is only gaining 2.. It was a tough fight for sure but I dont think it can be branded as a robbery at all.. He has a great record and even though he is small for a welterweight he even went up to 154(well 152 really :S) and beat the highly rated/hyped, young and huge alvarez.. Mayweather is top class and still going great.. Maybe he didn't get every huge fight made but it does take a lot of people to make the fights not just the fighters, with all the promoter and management nonsense I think floyds done fine with the guys he's taken on....
I don't know enough about boxing history to say where he would rank but he has looked pretty great to me, just my opinion though
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Perfected stated. I'll take it a step further and I dont even like the prick as a human being but the notion of Mayweather not being an atg begs the question then of just what is an all time great period not just in this era. If you dont like the guy or think he ducked a guy over 15 years well fine but to debate this for me would be as daft as the premise that's he's not an atg. I try to keep a lid on it but ffs some of this stuff is off the charts. The owner of this site might want to think about implementing a basic IQ test before activating.
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Of course, great list. Mayweather's opposition could never compare to the opposition of those guys LOL
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Bradlee come on man... All those guys rank better than Money lb for lb ATG
You gotta be joking!!!
Had you wanted to promote someone like Ray Robinson based on his record or Ray Leonard on his talent I can respect that but a lot of that list is ridiculous.
"Enough with the games mate! Your messing with the Grand Master!"
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Gayweather is a over priced prima donnas.... He prances around nobodies and hand picks these shop bought to suit....he is boring to watch and I can't remember the last time I did not fall a sleep watching this crock of rubbish....he's a big baby who spits his dummy when he cant get his own way😤
All Time Great....don't be ridiculous.... How old are you 12?
Job Biscuit (put that in Yer pipe and smoke it)!!!
eh eh!!
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you had me thinking that you knew what you were talking about until 1)you put pac at #9 which is a red flag that you are a huge pac fan which means you hate floyd. even if somehow you ranked pac above floyd, there is no way to justify ranking him that much higher, and 2)there are names on your list i believe you are just naming because you have just heard they were good. for example, im a huge ike williams fan but he isnt even a top 5 lightweight of all time let alone better than floyd. and sanchez died at the age of 23 (i think), and yes he had good wins but didnt have a long enough career, enough signature wins or even look as good as floyd to claim that he was better. there are some others on your list that i could dispute too but it would be way too long.
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1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali <~~~~I rate Floyd higher
4. Joe Louis <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
5. Roberto Duran <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
6. Willie Pep
7. Harry Greb <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
8. Benny Leonard <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
9. Manny Pacquiao <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Pernell Whitaker <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
11. Carlos Monzon <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
12. Rocky Marciano <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher - HAHAHA Marciano 12th of all time? Lmao.
13. Ezzard Charles <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
14. Archie Moore <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
15. Sandy Saddler <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
16. Jack Dempsey
17. Marvin Hagler <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
18. Julio Cesar Chavez
19. Eder Jofre <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
20. Alexis Arguello <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
21. Barney Ross <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
22. Evander Holyfield <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
23. Ike Williams <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
24. Salvador Sanchez <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
25. George Foreman <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
26. Kid Gavilian <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
27. Larry Holmes <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
Just my opinion, and I don't even like Floyd.
But Marciano ? That's not right.
You say tomato,
‘n I say …… it correctly.
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You rate Floyd higher than Ali and Louis but not Dempsey?1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Muhammad Ali <~~~~I rate Floyd higher
4. Joe Louis <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
5. Roberto Duran <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
6. Willie Pep
7. Harry Greb <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
8. Benny Leonard <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
9. Manny Pacquiao <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
9. Sugar Ray Leonard
10. Pernell Whitaker <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
11. Carlos Monzon <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
12. Rocky Marciano <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher - HAHAHA Marciano 12th of all time? Lmao.
13. Ezzard Charles <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
14. Archie Moore <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
15. Sandy Saddler <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
16. Jack Dempsey
17. Marvin Hagler <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
18. Julio Cesar Chavez
19. Eder Jofre <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
20. Alexis Arguello <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
21. Barney Ross <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
22. Evander Holyfield <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
23. Ike Williams <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
24. Salvador Sanchez <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
25. George Foreman <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
26. Kid Gavilian <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
27. Larry Holmes <~~~~ I rate Floyd higher
Just my opinion, and I don't even like Floyd.
But Marciano ? That's not right.
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