Do you agree with Buncies assessement, Floyd lacking a Frazer/Duran to be TBE?

[Master]

Definitely not fighting Manny hurts his legacy. Floyd is a great fighter and beaten quality fighters. I still hate the prick.

[FinitoElDinamita]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

[Master]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

I think he avoided Cotto at 140lb too.

[MIKAY]

To be fair to him the Alvarez fight was a mega fight, and Alvarez was huge and talented.

[Max Power]

To be fair to him the Alvarez fight was a mega fight, and Alvarez was huge and talented.

Agree. Alvarez is Mayweather's best win imo!!

[ross]

For fuck sakes people saying he avoided Pacquiao.

There is enough anecdotal evidence in videos with interviews from people like Alex Ariza who was actually training Pacquiao to say that Pacquiao wanted no part of the fight.

Then you have the questions about the contract, including if Manny tests positive can it be kept secret! Roach questioning what Manny was being given in milk shakes.

Pacquiao is a sham! However... I do agree that like Lennox Lewis felt he had to have a win over Tyson, no matter hw far gone he was that Floyd needs Pacquiaos name on his record.

Pacquiaos tax debts also need the fight so he can try to break even.

Floyd could then turn to middle weight. He's moved up and fought and beaten the biggest names at light middle twice. His last one was one of his easiest wins. Sergio Martinez is very beatable for Floyd and on fight night hes the same weight as Maidana! Smaller than Alvarez! So no huge weight advantage but THE man at middle.

Personally I would have no interest in watching Maidana again. He pushed Floyd back but caught him clean with barely fuck all. There was zero chance of Floyd getting hurt. Maybe to the back of the head but we need to see Floyd with someone skiled. Kahn would hold and spoil and it would be ugly.

[ono]

It's a stupid assesment. It's like saying "to be the greatest of all time, you need to have more close fights against the same fighter. He doesn't have a nemesis because he's beaten everyone comfortably enough.

[FinitoElDinamita]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

I think he avoided Cotto at 140lb too.

You know what bro, I got to disagree with that one.. Floyd called him out a couple times around 05-06 and Kneeguel and co declined claiming that they weren't ready..

Mikay, Floyd-Alvarez was not a " Mega fight ".. It was a big event based on the popularity of the fighters but in reality that was not some mega fight..

[boyla]

ducking is the word

[Master]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

I think he avoided Cotto at 140lb too.

You know what bro, I got to disagree with that one.. Floyd called him out a couple times around 05-06 and Kneeguel and co declined claiming that they weren't ready..

Mikay, Floyd-Alvarez was not a " Mega fight ".. It was a big event based on the popularity of the fighters but in reality that was not some mega fight..

Did not realise that Cotto turned it down, thought Floyd went for the easier option of Getting than Cotto or Tszyu.

Floyd beating Canelo was quality.

[bradlee180]

Nope, because the top prime competition was there all along, and the dude just wouldn't fight them at their best.

There could've been many Great match-ups.

Damn straight, since 2002 through 2011 when Mayweather finally decided to start fighting some top young guys. In those 9 years, Ricky Hatton was the sole top prime guy that Mayweather fought.

Paul Spadafora
Paul Williams
Kostya Tszyu
Antonio Margarito
Manny Pacquiao
Shane Mosely before he was a shot fighter.
Miguel Cotto before he was on the slide.

Hell, when Floyd was at 130 lbs, 4 lbs less at 126 lbs was:
Erik Morales
Prince Naseem Hamed
Marco Antonio Barrera
Juan Manuel Marquez


It's good that Mayweather has recently been fighting top young prime fighters like Guerrerro, Saul Alvarez, Ortiz, Maidana... but outstanding competition was there all along for 9 years previous, and he wouldn't have any of them except for Hatton.

[bradlee180]

Instead Mayweather spent all those years boxing:
jesus chavez
carlos hernandez
sosa
n’dou
demarcus corley
bruseles
baldomir
judah
a washed-up Gatti
a washed-up Mitchell

[Silkeyjoe]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

100% agree with Bincey. As good as Mayweather is he carefully selects his opponents and has neveer beaten a top fighter in their prime. Judging on the performance what odds is Mayweather to fight a genuine top welter (ie Thurman or Porter) in his next couple of fights? He'll take the easy option, Maidana rematch in September and Khan in May 2015. Hes smart, he knows if he loses his 0 his appeal is gone and there goes his 40mil+ paydays.

[ono]

TBE is a rubbish phrase.. TBE my ass..

When we talk about ATG fighters such as Duran, Leonard, and Ali, we can't think of any superfights that they missed out on..especially when the timing was perfect, available and ready..

Floyd blatantly ducked two people in Margarito and Pacquiao. He can be forgiven for Margarito whatever but the fact that he refused to face the best fighter of his generation is a fuckin travesty.

Floyd is all business.. fuck his legacy

100% agree with Bincey. As good as Mayweather is he carefully selects his opponents and has neveer beaten a top fighter in their prime. Judging on the performance what odds is Mayweather to fight a genuine top welter (ie Thurman or Porter) in his next couple of fights? He'll take the easy option, Maidana rematch in September and Khan in May 2015. Hes smart, he knows if he loses his 0 his appeal is gone and there goes his 40mil+ paydays.

The easy option being the fighter (Maidana) who a load of people on here think gave him the toughest fight of his career?

[bradlee180]

Well, boxers know their liabilities better than the public does.
In 2002, Jose Luis Castillo showed everyone the blueprint, and only Maidana has followed it.

Jose Luis Castillo
Marcos Maidana


Paul Williams
Antonio Margarito
Kostya Tszyu
Manny Pacquiao

^These guys don't run out of gas. They just keep comin' and comin' with that fast pace, they're tough and have no problem taking shots as long as they get off a few of their own in the exchanges.


Mayweather's shortcoming is to pressure-fighting; it always has been, and he's always known it better than anyone...