What happens to the fighters signed by GB and Haymon when Golden Boy implodes soon?

[Ron Swanson]

For a while, we all thought it was Golden Boy on one side and Top Rank on the other side. If it turns out that Golden Boy was just a tool for Schaefer to funnel fighters to Haymon, and Golden Boy is really a shell of a corporation, Schaefer will have answering to do.

Shaefer is a smart person. A weasel but a smart weasel. As long as can show that his model was increasing profits he's safe. What I suspect happened is Shaefer saw all the ground Haymon was gaining so he decided to straddle the fence and pick a side when it became clear who was taking over. Now that Haymon is strong enough he flat dared Oscar to fire him. What does he care he has a contract through 2018 he'd get a huge buyout and he just goes to Haymon and they partner with Main Event. Shaefer played it right, Oscar would be a fool to fire Shaefer because his stable would be gutted. The fighters go to Haymon to be like Floyd or TR to try for Manny money. Oscar would have no whale.

That may be right, but there appears to be a good argument that Schaefer deliberately used GB's money to build up fighters without signing them that there was money to be made on the fighters that wasn't made. Even if there was a profit, there could have been a bigger profit.

Have you heard Haymon is partnering with Main Event? Main Event sued Schaefer and Haymon the last I heard.

Also, isn't it possible Oscar would join with TR and mid-market promoters, which would leave Haymon on one side, and everyone else on the other side?

Finally, usually contracts with executives have non-compete clauses. If Schaefer left while on a valid contract, he might be barred from competing against Oscar.

I wasn't talking about Shaefer leaving. I was talking about him being fired. He basically dared Oscar to fire him only a few weeks ago. Non-compete doesn't apply to firing I thought. But I'm not familiar with executive procedural contracts so I should probably just shut my mouth on the subject.

I just threw Main Events name out there as an example by the way. But I think there's no way in hell Oscar merges a gutted GB with TR because that would be the end of GBP.

[Spicoli]

So Haymon has no allegiance to one particular promoter? Sounds like cut throat agent who ultimately can-will take offers from the highest bidder and provide services. Oscar has to feel like someone ran into his big house, grabbed his flirty girlfriend and ran off to a back bedroom giggling with her and leaving him sitting on the couch for the night . Haymon has been on a buying spree as of late, it almost feels with a few of these new grabs he is not that interested in a long term investment as much as just securing an asset and future event. Staking a claim. One time is good, two plus is a bonus. Courts, that's what will happen. Stevenson jump ship style.

[Rantcatrat]

So Haymon has no allegiance to one particular promoter? Sounds like cut throat agent who ultimately can-will take offers from the highest bidder and provide services. Oscar has to feel like someone ran into his big house, grabbed his flirty girlfriend and ran off to a back bedroom giggling with her and leaving him sitting on the couch for the night . Haymon has been on a buying spree as of late, it almost feels with a few of these new grabs he is not that interested in a long term investment as much as just securing an asset and future event. Staking a claim. One time is good, two plus is a bonus. Courts, that's what will happen. Stevenson jump ship style.

It looks like Schaefer and Haymon robbed GB blind, but with no evidence, that is only speculation.

[Rantcatrat]

The cold war is hurting Haymon fighters too because there is only one network they can fight on and as a result they aren't fighting very often. Garcia, Thurman, Porter, Peterson, Matthysse, Maidana, etc. only fight twice a year because at least in part they only have one network to fight on. They're all in their prime too.

[Kirkland Laing]

The cold war is hurting Haymon fighters too because there is only one network they can fight on and as a result they aren't fighting very often. Garcia, Thurman, Porter, Peterson, Matthysse, Maidana, etc. only fight twice a year because at least in part they only have one network to fight on. They're all in their prime too.

And the HBO head of boxing is currently trying to sound excited about doing a deal with Sauerland so that HBO can showcase --- Marco Huck.

It's a fucked up situation on both sides and something has to give.

One thing I forgot to mention was what Hopkins said in the ring after his last fight. He was talking about his future fights and he said something like the bottom like is I'm loyal to Showtime, loyal to Richard Schaefer and I think he said loyal to Haymon although I don't think he's signed with Haymon.

What he didn't do was mention Oscar and Oscar is the guy who gave him points in GBP when he set GBP up. As a (minority) partner in GBP you've got to figure Hopkins knows what's going on behind the scenes so for him not to mention Oscar in that situation is interesting.

[Rantcatrat]

The cold war is hurting Haymon fighters too because there is only one network they can fight on and as a result they aren't fighting very often. Garcia, Thurman, Porter, Peterson, Matthysse, Maidana, etc. only fight twice a year because at least in part they only have one network to fight on. They're all in their prime too.

And the HBO head of boxing is currently trying to sound excited about doing a deal with Sauerland so that HBO can showcase --- Marco Huck.

It's a fucked up situation on both sides and something has to give.

One thing I forgot to mention was what Hopkins said in the ring after his last fight. He was talking about his future fights and he said something like the bottom like is I'm loyal to Showtime, loyal to Richard Schaefer and I think he said loyal to Haymon although I don't think he's signed with Haymon.

What he didn't do was mention Oscar and Oscar is the guy who gave him points in GBP when he set GBP up. As a (minority) partner in GBP you've got to figure Hopkins knows what's going on behind the scenes so for him not to mention Oscar in that situation is interesting.

You make a good point. HBO has had to dig deep to make fights because they aren't working with GB and Haymon. For example, Algeiri-Provo isn't horrible, but it's also not super enticing. Same with the Jennings/Glazkov. I'll be honest depending on the match-up, I'm not mad at Marco Huck. He's been in some good fights and put together a pretty good career.

[Master]

Notice Floyd said during his post fight press conference that he was looking at life outside of boxing and that he said Andre Ward and Mickey Garcia should join him as they are PPV fighters.