Eddie Chambers explains why Wladimir Klitschko is an all-time great

[El Kabong]

That's awesome that you hate Paul Spadafora though Lyle, do you also have a black friend? Man I had you all wrong. Gtfo with that shit.

Oh for fucks sake did you not see anyone called a neo-nazi just now for even saying Wlad is good? Miss that? And yes there are people who are critical of Floyd Mayweather but the people who say he is great but just not the greatest are treated exactly the same not seen that either?

Also 0 times...0 times has anyone ever implied that a poster liked a fighter for the sole purpose of being black....it's almost as if blacks couldn't be racist when cheering for a fighter.


If your view of me has changed fine but I'm not taking constant racial abuse from posters

Err...did I say it Did you miss that? I'm just not sure why you quoted me on that tangent I guess.. I also think that using a singular example of someone you may like or dislike as evidence against a prejudice is always so utterly lame and suggests there is in fact a bit of one. I don't know whether you're a bigot or not, it doesn't really affect me either way.

OK how many do I have to name until it's not "utterly lame"? 5, 10, 100? I gave 1 example because that's all I needed to prove the point I was trying to make. If I'm supposed to support 100% of all the white fighters then not liking Spadafora disproves that theory. I can name more if you like....give me a number I'll hit it, fuck, what do you want me to do?

[p4pking]

Give me your top 10 most hated white fighters right now Lyle, and an in depth explanation of why they are inferior to at least 5 fighters of other ethnicity's for each. Otherwise you may as well be Hispanic for all I care.

[El Kabong]

Spadafora, Hatton, Ottke, Golota, Savarese, Corrie Sanders, Sean O'Grady, Froch, Calzaghe, and LaMatta.......details to follow after I'm drunk

[p4pking]

That's reasonable. You'll have to list at least 500 fighters from central Africa you like to convince me that you aren't a Grand wizard though.

[El Kabong]

That's reasonable. You'll have to list at least 500 fighters from central Africa you like to convince me that you aren't a Grand wizard though.

....then I guess it probably doesn't help that my sole reason for disliking them is because they are all octoroons

[p4pking]

That's reasonable. You'll have to list at least 500 fighters from central Africa you like to convince me that you aren't a Grand wizard though.

....then I guess it probably doesn't help that my sole reason for disliking them is because they are all octoroons

Damn, this is getting complicated. You aren't supposed to know anything about that part of the world, now I'll have to do some research and get back to you.

[TitoFan]

How the hell did this become about race yet again?


Wlad could be transparent, with black extremities, white torso, red hair, and a yellow and purple polka-dotted face. He's still not an ATG, IMO. For several reasons:


1. He hasn't faced a decent challenger in years.
2. He was KTFO'ed three times in his earlier years, knockouts that went mostly unavenged.
3. These KTFO losses came at the hands of fighters of little reknown otherwise.
4. He's not above fouling in the worst way, to save his brittle chin. Even if it means stinking up the ring with clinching and mauling tactics. For this he mostly gets a free pass from the ref.
5. He hasn't had that "epic" fight, where he has to get off the canvas or come back to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.




I could give a shit what color and nationality he is.
He's as boring as drying paint.
And if he doesn't care, neither do I.