Is Mayweather a all time great?

[Max Power]

Pac got fucking flattened by fucking Jmm he not lasting a second with Hearns. The second he goes in and is of blanced and countered he is going to sleep Duran style my friend. Hearns fucking lost one time to Leonard at ww and he had to go through Hell to get to Hearns you underrate them very badly.

I am sorry but I think rating Thomas Hearns in the top 20, possibly the edge of the top 10 as the greatest boxers of all time including current and all boxers since him as a pretty fucking FLATTERING rating mate!!

You always have to clump the top fighters of an era together and assess how they performed against each other as a proof of how they'd be unbeatable for those of the current era. Maybe they were challenged by each other simply because that's what they were purely up against.

How do you know Leonard could have beaten a prime Pac at a comparable weight? What visual evidence can you produce of their fights to prove that point?

He definitely could have, that's not my point here, the point is that you make a lot of assumptions without actually pointing to some performances in which it could be noted that Pac (or Floyd) would not handle that.

Pac's beaten bigger fighters. Floyd has too. JMM is a very good bloody fighter too!

[Mr140]

I am saying at 147 i would give the edge to Leonard over all of them if they fought at the weight class. Not doing pound for pound hear i am saying at 147 I fell Hearns and Leonard beat Mayweather and Pac and if they fight at 154 i fell there chances are even because Hearns was even better there and Leonard i wont go with Hagler because he was a mw champ i see no chance for them there. As for Benitez have you Followed his Career when he was youngest champ 40-0 was 140 and 147 champ and Leonard fucking beat the shit out of him he was a great fighter.

[Mr140]

As for Mayweather and Pacs rating for atg i think top 15 is good for Mayweather, i rate pac lower because he could never beat Jmm and Morales was done at top level i fell when he beat him not to mention him being knocked the fuck out when he was champ at the lower weights. Mayweather resume is great one but it lost some luster because time of the fights not that i blame Mayweather for it. As for Pac he has great wins but also has some bad ko loses and never really manged to conving beat Jmm then got vicious ko by the man when he was 40 years of age. 147 run was good but Oscar was done did you see him fight night, Mosley had not won a fight in 2 years, Clotty is a gatekeeper, Got a huge gift against Jmm then got Koed and then there is Cotto his best win but was also Clobbered by Margarito not long before its a good run but top 10 run no. Margarito at 154 for a title was a joke because he had not won in over 2 years as well i mean it kinda shit i might bump him in top 20 for lower weights. I can not exclude the older guys either because if they were beast in there era they most also get there dues boxing has alot good fucking fighters in it hard to rank dude.

[powerpuncher]

maxpower is so smart though. how could you ever disagree with him?

[Mr140]

I do not feel that Max is a dumbass but i fell he ranks this era like old people rank there eras only worse at times i guess. I mean when it comes to heavyweights he has a chip on his shoulder for what ever reason and seems to not want to give any dues to fights from the 60's back in any weight class.

[powerpuncher]

I do not feel that Max is a dumbass but i fell he ranks this era like old people rank there eras only worse at times i guess. I mean when it comes to heavyweights he has a chip on his shoulder for what ever reason and seems to not want to give any dues to fights from the 60's back in any weight class.

not just HWs. anybody before the 90's pretty much he says would stand no chance against fighters today. he is alright when it comes to modern boxing discussion but should leave history to the big boys.

[Julius Rain]

Theres no way you can say no. Even if he had lost to Castillo, Dela Hoya or Maidana. If he had lost those it wouldn't have mattered.

[El Kabong]

Theres no way you can say no. Even if he had lost to Castillo, Dela Hoya or Maidana. If he had lost those it wouldn't have mattered.

.....eh, maybe