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    I don't think you can call Arreola shot, he's always fought like this. Stiverne looked ok in spots I, but that's kind of his problem. He has zero actual work rate, all he seems to do offensively is flick the jab out, assuming the other guy isn't making mistakes. He does have big power and some tricky countering ability for his size, I'd give him a good chance to beat anyone aside from Wlad given that, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    I don't think you can call Arreola shot, he's always fought like this. Stiverne looked ok in spots I, but that's kind of his problem. He has zero actual work rate, all he seems to do offensively is flick the jab out, assuming the other guy isn't making mistakes. He does have big power and some tricky countering ability for his size, I'd give him a good chance to beat anyone aside from Wlad given that, I think.
    His punch resistance was looking like dry toast there a bit, hurt about 4,5 times. Stiverne literally picked his spots few and far between but was quick and accurate..short circuit you kind of shots not heavy

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    Another fight night gone and the guy I wanted to win bites the dust. Life as a fight fan sucks, at times.
    I didn't really pick Arreola but I was sure hoping he'd get the win.

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    Wlads mandatory is irrelevant to any unifying issues because it's his IBF title that's up and IBF actually pushes for unifying. It's in their rules that you can postpone mandatory defenses for unifying fights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Wlads mandatory is irrelevant to any unifying issues because it's his IBF title that's up and IBF actually pushes for unifying. It's in their rules that you can postpone mandatory defenses for unifying fights.
    That's true but if I tighten my tin foil hat a bit I can see the WBC being devastated that Chris did not win. They could force a mandatory on him even though the fight for that position between Perez/Jennings is now off. So they could relegate Wilder as the mandatory or have him fight Thompson in an eliminator. If they go that route then a date can be attempted for Wlad. Or they could go with Jennings/Wilder but Jennings may overtrain waiting on Wilders camp. Its interesting and here are the WBC's rankings to show what I'm talking about. The fees they make in a Wlad fight would dwarf what they would make off any other title fight not involving Wlad. ()= ranking prior to April


    1 (1) Bermane Stiverne (SILVER)
    2 (2) Chris Arreola
    3 (3) Deontay Wilder (AMERICA)
    4 (4) Bryant Jennings
    5 (5) Mike Perez (USNBC)
    6 (15) Tony Thompson (INTL)
    7 (6) Manuel Charr (INTL SILVER /BALTIC/CISBB)
    8 (7) Dereck Chisora (EBU)
    9 (12) Vyacheslav Glazkov
    10 ( Tyson Fury
    11 (11) Lucas Browne
    12 (13) Andy Ruiz (NABF)
    13 (14) Carlos Takam
    14 (10) Odlanier Solis
    15 (9) Tomasz Adamek

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Wlads mandatory is irrelevant to any unifying issues because it's his IBF title that's up and IBF actually pushes for unifying. It's in their rules that you can postpone mandatory defenses for unifying fights.
    That's true but if I tighten my tin foil hat a bit I can see the WBC being devastated that Chris did not win. They could force a mandatory on him even though the fight for that position between Perez/Jennings is now off. So they could relegate Wilder as the mandatory or have him fight Thompson in an eliminator. If they go that route then a date can be attempted for Wlad. Or they could go with Jennings/Wilder but Jennings may overtrain waiting on Wilders camp. Its interesting and here are the WBC's rankings to show what I'm talking about. The fees they make in a Wlad fight would dwarf what they would make off any other title fight not involving Wlad. ()= ranking prior to April


    1 (1) Bermane Stiverne (SILVER)
    2 (2) Chris Arreola
    3 (3) Deontay Wilder (AMERICA)
    4 (4) Bryant Jennings
    5 (5) Mike Perez (USNBC)
    6 (15) Tony Thompson (INTL)
    7 (6) Manuel Charr (INTL SILVER /BALTIC/CISBB)
    8 (7) Dereck Chisora (EBU)
    9 (12) Vyacheslav Glazkov
    10 ( Tyson Fury
    11 (11) Lucas Browne
    12 (13) Andy Ruiz (NABF)
    13 (14) Carlos Takam
    14 (10) Odlanier Solis
    15 (9) Tomasz Adamek
    I'm like 95% sure a Wilder fight was mandated for the winner after the Perez fight was canceled. But I'm sure they can be paid off in whatever way DK wants to go. Does Don think there's more money in holding onto the belt or a cash grab with Wlad? I'm interested to see which way it goes. Wlad really wants that belt so he'll probably make one hell of an offer.

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    King having an active portion of the heavyweight game once again is a nightmare scenario...any minute now he'll be greasing the palm of the wbc to rank Tony Tucker #1

    It may be in name only, he'll try to tuck this thing under his pillow and milk it to death. I always have a cynical bone when 'made' title swaying fights fall through that close to a title fight. Wouldn't shock to see Jennings n Wilder and 'eliminator' but think it'll be Stiverne right away, prob some bs 90 day mandatory or strip. Wlad vs Pulev is made and distant...it'll kick off before that for sure. No way they'll put Arreola back in the immediate mix, can't see it and frankly don't need it.

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