I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

[Julius Rain]

Props for being brave and put out a list. Everybody will pick it apart. Good to see you around Mick!



I completely disagree but who cares....

[powerpuncher]

well you seem to know what you are talking about which is nice. although i have a few problems with your list, its not too bad. i am like you though, there are certain fighters that i just dont know enough about. maybe i just dont know enough about ezzard charles but you seem to rank him really high for some reason. although he is arguably the best LHW ever.

for me, i cant rank floyd below top 25 but im sure that he is in my top 20. i havent made a list so i cant say for sure where. he isnt in my top 10 though.

i am glad that you have taken off your hater glasses for jones. he was so good and people just hate on him. IMO, he is the best fighter of the past 25 years.

[Mr140]

Good to see you Cut i thought you might of died or something like think saddo did also i agree with alot of the list but not all of it but shit well thought out at least. After all this talk of rating think we should have atg list for old generation and the new one split up. Like form the 1900 to 1960's and the 1970's to like now and then have a ranking list for those eras kinda like hall of fame has i think. Anyhow i am curious how much footage did you get to see of the older fighters a lot of the older ones i have really search to see and read a fucking shit ton about sure as shit ain't easy i will tell you that.

[Spicoli]

Don't call it a comeback!! Ha. Agreed on his area of rank though ATG list can at times be as subjective and broad as even a p4p list. Titles, defences, opposition, or just looking at a guy and knowing he's more skilled...etc. Its a big difficult ball of wax at times. I'd have a hard time putting Sr. in the top 10 but that's just me. Jones I still have not cracking 20 ish and put Lopez ahead although like you said he too may take strikes because of lack of comp or even moving up. But on skill and pure craft Lopez, on athleticism and phenomenal reflex Jones. I still think Mayweather will always regret his departure immediately after Hatton as the division seemed to pass him by and he indeed missed some big opportunities to cement greatness. I gotta crash. Welcome back chief!

[CutMeMick]

Don't call it a comeback!! Ha. Agreed on his area of rank though ATG list can at times be as subjective and broad as even a p4p list. Titles, defences, opposition, or just looking at a guy and knowing he's more skilled...etc. Its a big difficult ball of wax at times. I'd have a hard time putting Sr. in the top 10 but that's just me. Jones I still have not cracking 20 ish and put Lopez ahead although like you said he too may take strikes because of lack of comp or even moving up. But on skill and pure craft Lopez, on athleticism and phenomenal reflex Jones. I still think Mayweather will always regret his departure immediately after Hatton as the division seemed to pass him by and he indeed missed some big opportunities to cement greatness. I gotta crash. Welcome back chief!

@Spicoli completely agree with you solely based on craft and ring generalship NO ONE comes close to Finito Lopez... Arguably the closest thing to a perfect boxer if one has ever existed.
I also agree on the bit of Floyd taking his mini vacation.

[Mr140]

How did you find SRR footage like did you go to a archive or somthing thought that shit was gone in a fire or something right. Also do you have any on Tunney at all besides the Demsey fights. I really think that we should have a atg list done like old generation new one because they are so different now.

[Mr140]

Also good to see you back i like to see Ice Britkid and Saddo come back but i think they are long gone. I would rank Holyfeild tad higher since there has never been a Heavyweight move up to hw and be considered a top 10 atg hw. Which is saying a lot when giving up 20 to 40 pounds in a fight is big deal.