I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

[mikeeod]

Can't see how anyone can have Roy ranked ahead of Floyd, Hop, n Manny. Just makes no sense to me...

I would have to rank Floyd in the top 20. He is a great fighter and has beaten all styles at multiple weights in various different ways. The guy is really a 140 pounder at most, n he is shutting out the top guys at 154. Tough to argue with that kind of dominance. Would've liked to have seen him beat Paul Williams, Kostya, Prime Shane, n Winky (too big, I know, but I think Floyd could've pulled it off) but I'm not one of those guys who thinks he sucked them. He has fought some solid comp throughout his career.

Right now I keep going back and forth in how I rank Floyd, Manny, and Hop because all three have MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS that may never be broken or duplicated. All three r phenomenal in their own way. Going back to my earlier point, I just can't see how some of the lists on here have Roy anywhere near the top 30, not to mention ranked over the other three...

[Mr140]

Ok now i have to defend another fucking guy i hate good god why. Jones deserve to be in talks with Mayweather, Pac and Hopkins i have him over Pac and Hopkins. Jones Stared out at 154 and got titles all the way to hw which is 50 pounds differens of division and up. The guy he fought was 220 thats 70 pounds diffence from were he started and Roy weighed 198 and and beat him for a belt. Now do i think his top 15 depends on my mood but he deserves to mentioned with Mayweather and he is above Pac and Hopkins in my book. I mean see Hopkins trying to jump up to heavy and fight a contender do you see pac trying to face a smw or Mayweather facing a lhw no because that's crazy for them. The only fighter when comes to mind when having ro face faints his whole career is Holyfeild started out 175 and fought guys up to 250 and most of the time was outweighed 20 pounds and still manged to win during his prime and give good fight after it. There are only a few fighters in the history of the sport who dare move up to hw division and win anything and you know why because it is a really fucking hard thing to try to do.

[powerpuncher]

Can't see how anyone can have Roy ranked ahead of Floyd, Hop, n Manny. Just makes no sense to me...

I would have to rank Floyd in the top 20. He is a great fighter and has beaten all styles at multiple weights in various different ways. The guy is really a 140 pounder at most, n he is shutting out the top guys at 154. Tough to argue with that kind of dominance. Would've liked to have seen him beat Paul Williams, Kostya, Prime Shane, n Winky (too big, I know, but I think Floyd could've pulled it off) but I'm not one of those guys who thinks he sucked them. He has fought some solid comp throughout his career.

Right now I keep going back and forth in how I rank Floyd, Manny, and Hop because all three have MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS that may never be broken or duplicated. All three r phenomenal in their own way. Going back to my earlier point, I just can't see how some of the lists on here have Roy anywhere near the top 30, not to mention ranked over the other three...

in reality, bhop is kind of overrated. at this point, most of his legacy comes from his longevity. he has been a top fighter for so many years that it just pushes him up the rankings despite not being super great. i would say that hagler, monzon, and robinson are all easily above him at middleweight and there are a handful of other middleweights throughout history that are arguably better. bhop just gets the nod over the other guys because of longevity. honestly, he isnt a fighter that is eye catching by any means. he is a great fighter but not its hard for me to call him elite.

i think that pac got very overrated also because of his 3 or so year dominance at a higher weight. i can see pac being ranked in the top 30 comfortably and maybe top 25, but the top 20 would be kind of pushing it for me. pac isnt the first person to beat bigger fighters. there are just so many joke belts now that he can win "titles" at different weights. if these belts existed for the last 100 years, there would be multiple fighters with this same accomplishment and probably even better.

jones actually dominated all of his competition. he never really had trouble in any fight before the first tarver fight. after that fight, he never looked the same again. you dont see many people staying at a top level for that long and really never having a close fight. yes, he didnt fight everyone, but neither has anybody. people like to pick on jones and mayweather for ducking fighters but pac ducked fighters on his way up too but for some reason nobody ever mentions it. i think that jones should be in the top 20 of all time. him and mayweather are close with pac and bhop lagging a little behind.