I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

[walrus]

I don't see a problem rating Floyd that high. I think his unique, effective defense and offense that has given all his opponents an issue relegated him quite high. I know his opposition hasn't been top teir as it could have been, or should be but his years of dominance deserves him a Solid rating. I am not a Floyd fan but I try not to let my bias to his dare I say greatness.

I am a Pactard but I rate Manny even higher. People have made solid statements explaining why they feel this is not accurate and I try to be open minded but I would put Manny in the top twenty and Floyd perhaps in the top twenty five.

Both of these gentlemen are amazing to watch during their craft and their dedication oozes through the TV. I thought Floyd would have a tough fight with Maidana but I honestly thought thought Maidana won. He had a brilliant plan and I think he did enough to win or at worst a draw. Perhaps a draw would have been more fitting which would have brought us a definite rematch which I would love to see. I think someone here made a good point that the ppv numbers may be enough to avoid a rematch on Floyd's side.

Well, I'm sure I may get attacked for this post but I already called myself a Pactard so I took away your ammunition, so ha ha on you.

[Mr140]

Pac has good resume and it is a bit better then Mayweather but he was koed when he was a Flyweight champ then had draw with ok fighter lost to a Morales on the slide which i think is fair to say because he lost before he beat him and after he beat him. Barrera was his best win but had been tooled by Jones who was a good fighter not great before hand. Also big thing i have against Pac is he never really beat Jmm in eyes of anyone most people have Jmm winning all the fights the third one was called the Robbery of year by ring magazine and the Jmm at 40 knocked him the fuck out few i think that goes against him a tad. I mean Mayweather literal tooled Jmm say what you want about Pac beating the guys Mayweather did better but most were after they lost to him and unlike Pac Mayweather never lost to Jmm.

[fan johnny]

Floyd is a great boxer and great at selling his persona which is more beleivable than his father's brand of BS but it is still BS. What makes him beleivable aside frim his demeanor, is he seems to back his story in the ring. His rap is designed to suck you in, modeled after Ali, which he explains makes you hate him and want to watch his fights. I got a kick out if my dad who got so mad watching Ali's fights when his opponents . Couldnt hit him and probably why Duran is my personal favorite. I havent put a ccomprehensive list together because it wuld take way too much time but im pretty sure Floyd wouldnt make it to my top 10-20.

[VG_Addict]

I honestly don't see anyone from 130 to 147 beating Floyd.

And it's not like you can say this is a weak era, like you could with the Klits and the HW division. 140-147 are both VERY strong divisions right now, and have been for quite a while.

[Master]

I honestly don't see anyone from 130 to 147 beating Floyd.

And it's not like you can say this is a weak era, like you could with the Klits and the HW division. 140-147 are both VERY strong divisions right now, and have been for quite a while.

They are not great divisions with great champions that have been able to enhance the Floyd legacy. At lightweight Shane, Duran or Pernell, welterweight there is no SRR, Leonard or Hearns or at light middle with McCallum or Norris. Floyd has not even been able to fight the number 2 welterweight in the division.

[Conrad]

Floyd is Top 10 surely? I think he's proven it the last few years even after the Maidana fight. He's 37 FFS.

Athletes improve over time and that's why records keep getting broken. A prime 2000's PBF handles pretty much everyone from 135 - 147 IMO from all decades previous. He's just too damn good to get hurt, has he ever been seriously?

Now I hate Floyd as much as the next man but I've resigned myself to the fact there's simply nobody out there that can beat him. I've travelled 3 times to Vegas in the hope he gets beaten and every time I leave thinking "maybe next time?'

There is no next time.

[powerpuncher]

as some people have stated before, there have been some very good fighters over the past century. floyd is better than almost all of them and being in the top 20 or 25 is still a tremendous accomplishment.

floyd has beaten some really good fighters. while i do agree that he is heads and shoulders better than anybody around him right now, i could say that about past fighters also. you could put sweat pea, ray robinson, ray leonard, duran, armstrong, chavez, ross, arguello, among others in floyds place and they would all dominate too. im not implying that they are all better than floyd but just stating the fact that there have been other elite fighters that would dominate this era like floyd did. and that list only included some of the people around floyds weight. thats not counting all of the other weight classes.

honestly, imagaine ray leonard in this era. who could beat him? i honestly cant think of anybody from 140-160 that could even come close. or duran. anybody from 135-154 would have no chance. so my point is that many people would dominate this era. floyd isnt the only person who could do what he has done. this is why he isnt top 10.