Quote Originally Posted by Heavy D

Also...Chuck has excellent take down defense and the brute strength to stand himself back up. That doesn't mean he has a good ground game. It means he can sprawl well and that he has strong legs (technique=good at ground game, brute strength=do what you can to get out of ground game)
That aside...
I guess we simply disagree. I think of ground game as a mix of submissions and wrestling. I agree that chuck isn't going to submit anyone especially from his guard. But in the submission grappling tourneys I compete in you score points for effective takedowns, reversals and improving you position(ie..regaining guard after being mounted) Considering he consistantly improves his position when on the ground(Mounted to guard to standing) I'd think the guy's wrestling is pretty awesome. Submission is another story. I've never even see him attempt a sub. That being said his sub defense is very good.