I now rank Floyd somwhere between top 30-40 all time...

[Master]

I honestly don't see anyone from 130 to 147 beating Floyd.

And it's not like you can say this is a weak era, like you could with the Klits and the HW division. 140-147 are both VERY strong divisions right now, and have been for quite a while.

They are not great divisions with great champions that have been able to enhance the Floyd legacy. At lightweight Shane, Duran or Pernell, welterweight there is no SRR, Leonard or Hearns or at light middle with McCallum or Norris. Floyd has not even been able to fight the number 2 welterweight in the division.

[Conrad]

Floyd is Top 10 surely? I think he's proven it the last few years even after the Maidana fight. He's 37 FFS.

Athletes improve over time and that's why records keep getting broken. A prime 2000's PBF handles pretty much everyone from 135 - 147 IMO from all decades previous. He's just too damn good to get hurt, has he ever been seriously?

Now I hate Floyd as much as the next man but I've resigned myself to the fact there's simply nobody out there that can beat him. I've travelled 3 times to Vegas in the hope he gets beaten and every time I leave thinking "maybe next time?'

There is no next time.

[powerpuncher]

as some people have stated before, there have been some very good fighters over the past century. floyd is better than almost all of them and being in the top 20 or 25 is still a tremendous accomplishment.

floyd has beaten some really good fighters. while i do agree that he is heads and shoulders better than anybody around him right now, i could say that about past fighters also. you could put sweat pea, ray robinson, ray leonard, duran, armstrong, chavez, ross, arguello, among others in floyds place and they would all dominate too. im not implying that they are all better than floyd but just stating the fact that there have been other elite fighters that would dominate this era like floyd did. and that list only included some of the people around floyds weight. thats not counting all of the other weight classes.

honestly, imagaine ray leonard in this era. who could beat him? i honestly cant think of anybody from 140-160 that could even come close. or duran. anybody from 135-154 would have no chance. so my point is that many people would dominate this era. floyd isnt the only person who could do what he has done. this is why he isnt top 10.