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    Default Re: Unpleasant news regarding Golovkin's next fight

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    The US is still the most dominant nation in boxing...and that won't change anytime soon...or ever.

    We dominate the hottest divisions and have the youth to replace the old guys...the Championship pedegree can't be compared or rivaled.

    US fighters are the most imitated idolized and studied.

    MOST of the foreign fighters around today are in their 30's....and there sure as hell isn't any youth movement behind them.

    What we don't have are LOYAL FANS.

    Brits support there own be they White as Hatton or Black as Bruno..

    Americans would rather cheer for a Russian or an Argentine than an American...But you best believe Russians and Argentines NEVER pull for American fighters.

    They aren't stupid like that.

    If Floyd walked away from the biggest fight in HISTORY because of drug testing, the US media would replace Barry bonds and Mark McGuirre with Mayweather as the poster boy for steroids.

    HBO picked up on the thirst for foreign fighters coming from WITHIN the US and have gone almost exclusively foreign.

    I love watching them fail.
    I dont think this makes much sense at all

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    Default Re: Unpleasant news regarding Golovkin's next fight

    Geale is a top 10 contender. This should be a good fight
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    Its a respectable match and could be and has been far worse. I don't care if Geale is from fooking Pluto and painted neon orange, he has ability and Golovkin needs guys he cannot 'choose' to carry and spar like his last fight. Geale will not play his foil and except a role..he'll try to win! Hope it turns into some give and take before its all over.

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    Default Re: Unpleasant news regarding Golovkin's next fight

    So yes there are plenty people interested in this fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Its a respectable match and could be and has been far worse. I don't care if Geale is from fooking Pluto and painted neon orange, he has ability and Golovkin needs guys he cannot 'choose' to carry and spar like his last fight. Geale will not play his foil and except a role..he'll try to win! Hope it turns into some give and take before its all over.
    I watched the Adamu fight again yesterday and that was exactly what I thought too. It didn't even look like a fight, it looked like sparring. At one point GGG didn't like what he was doing and he sat right in front of Adamu and shadowboxed haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Its a respectable match and could be and has been far worse. I don't care if Geale is from fooking Pluto and painted neon orange, he has ability and Golovkin needs guys he cannot 'choose' to carry and spar like his last fight. Geale will not play his foil and except a role..he'll try to win! Hope it turns into some give and take before its all over.
    It's about time for GGG to "challenge himself" and Gaele is hardly a challenge.

    Strange how certain fighters are constantly required to take risks while GGG can languish for YEARS in a dead division where he is heavilly favored against all his half-dead peers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
    Its a respectable match and could be and has been far worse. I don't care if Geale is from fooking Pluto and painted neon orange, he has ability and Golovkin needs guys he cannot 'choose' to carry and spar like his last fight. Geale will not play his foil and except a role..he'll try to win! Hope it turns into some give and take before its all over.
    It's about time for GGG to "challenge himself" and Gaele is hardly a challenge.

    Strange how certain fighters are constantly required to take risks while GGG can languish for YEARS in a dead division where he is heavilly favored against all his half-dead peers.
    What would you propose saving expecting him to jump up to 168. Is that your 'challeng himself'. The division is hardly dead and Geale is a step up compared to Ishida or even a Rosado. The politricks is what's stifling a few top dogs from sorting it out in the short term and Papa Arum and Chavez fight fell out. Martinez will in all likely hood cut Cotto to ribbons while Quillin and Jacobs is probally in the works being same promotion. Murray? I've bashed Golovkin as almost becoming a "celebriboxer" with his last showcase US networks didn't even see fit to air but fair is fair, and this is more of a challenge than the other guy who was being mentioned and for future fight sake more likely to receive top billing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    The US is still the most dominant nation in boxing...and that won't change anytime soon...or ever.

    We dominate the hottest divisions and have the youth to replace the old guys...the Championship pedegree can't be compared or rivaled.

    US fighters are the most imitated idolized and studied.

    MOST of the foreign fighters around today are in their 30's....and there sure as hell isn't any youth movement behind them.

    What we don't have are LOYAL FANS.

    Brits support there own be they White as Hatton or Black as Bruno..

    Americans would rather cheer for a Russian or an Argentine than an American...But you best believe Russians and Argentines NEVER pull for American fighters.

    They aren't stupid like that.

    If Floyd walked away from the biggest fight in HISTORY because of drug testing, the US media would replace Barry bonds and Mark McGuirre with Mayweather as the poster boy for steroids.

    HBO picked up on the thirst for foreign fighters coming from WITHIN the US and have gone almost exclusively foreign.

    I love watching them fail.
    I dont think this makes much sense at all
    It doesn't make sense to deny it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    The US is still the most dominant nation in boxing...and that won't change anytime soon...or ever.

    We dominate the hottest divisions and have the youth to replace the old guys...the Championship pedegree can't be compared or rivaled.

    US fighters are the most imitated idolized and studied.

    MOST of the foreign fighters around today are in their 30's....and there sure as hell isn't any youth movement behind them.

    What we don't have are LOYAL FANS.

    Brits support there own be they White as Hatton or Black as Bruno..

    Americans would rather cheer for a Russian or an Argentine than an American...But you best believe Russians and Argentines NEVER pull for American fighters.

    They aren't stupid like that.

    If Floyd walked away from the biggest fight in HISTORY because of drug testing, the US media would replace Barry bonds and Mark McGuirre with Mayweather as the poster boy for steroids.

    HBO picked up on the thirst for foreign fighters coming from WITHIN the US and have gone almost exclusively foreign.

    I love watching them fail.
    I dont think this makes much sense at all
    It doesn't make sense to deny it..
    I dont know. A far as I can see Europe and Asia have better boxing prospects coming through which is shown by the dominance of these fighters at amateur levels. Id be pretty sure there is a decline in US champions compared to 10 years ago but couldnt be sure (Im not counting Mexico as US). Outside of Floyd and Ward, I dont think there is much potential for complete dominance from a US fighter the way GGG could dominate the MW div, or Yamanaka could dominate the BW div. I dont think Danny Garcia is the future of the Welterweight div. The only 2 US guys with realistic chances of dominating are Thurman and Mikey Garcia (arguably mexican)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    The US is still the most dominant nation in boxing...and that won't change anytime soon...or ever.

    We dominate the hottest divisions and have the youth to replace the old guys...the Championship pedegree can't be compared or rivaled.

    US fighters are the most imitated idolized and studied.

    MOST of the foreign fighters around today are in their 30's....and there sure as hell isn't any youth movement behind them.

    What we don't have are LOYAL FANS.

    Brits support there own be they White as Hatton or Black as Bruno..

    Americans would rather cheer for a Russian or an Argentine than an American...But you best believe Russians and Argentines NEVER pull for American fighters.

    They aren't stupid like that.

    If Floyd walked away from the biggest fight in HISTORY because of drug testing, the US media would replace Barry bonds and Mark McGuirre with Mayweather as the poster boy for steroids.

    HBO picked up on the thirst for foreign fighters coming from WITHIN the US and have gone almost exclusively foreign.

    I love watching them fail.
    I dont think this makes much sense at all
    It doesn't make sense to deny it..
    I dont know. A far as I can see Europe and Asia have better boxing prospects coming through which is shown by the dominance of these fighters at amateur levels. Id be pretty sure there is a decline in US champions compared to 10 years ago but couldnt be sure (Im not counting Mexico as US). Outside of Floyd and Ward, I dont think there is much potential for complete dominance from a US fighter the way GGG could dominate the MW div, or Yamanaka could dominate the BW div. I dont think Danny Garcia is the future of the Welterweight div. The only 2 US guys with realistic chances of dominating are Thurman and Mikey Garcia (arguably mexican)
    There is no decline in US champions...and there sure as hell aren't any young fighters from Europe(LOL) and Asia poised to take over anything.

    Mexico is declining....Puerto Rico as well..but not the US....all you have to do is look around.

    GGG old ass isn't dominating anything but his dead division.
    Garcia isn't a dominant fighter.

    Who do they have to replace GG..Kovalev...and those old Klits??

    NOBODY.

    Where are the 22 y/o Russian/Khazak prospects??

    Even their prospects are OLD.

    Lomenchenko is the only young guy they have and he's about to get killed by GRjr

    They can raise hell in the amateurs all they want...but the PROS is where it is and where they are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by palmerq View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    The US is still the most dominant nation in boxing...and that won't change anytime soon...or ever.

    We dominate the hottest divisions and have the youth to replace the old guys...the Championship pedegree can't be compared or rivaled.

    US fighters are the most imitated idolized and studied.

    MOST of the foreign fighters around today are in their 30's....and there sure as hell isn't any youth movement behind them.

    What we don't have are LOYAL FANS.

    Brits support there own be they White as Hatton or Black as Bruno..

    Americans would rather cheer for a Russian or an Argentine than an American...But you best believe Russians and Argentines NEVER pull for American fighters.

    They aren't stupid like that.

    If Floyd walked away from the biggest fight in HISTORY because of drug testing, the US media would replace Barry bonds and Mark McGuirre with Mayweather as the poster boy for steroids.

    HBO picked up on the thirst for foreign fighters coming from WITHIN the US and have gone almost exclusively foreign.

    I love watching them fail.
    I dont think this makes much sense at all
    It doesn't make sense to deny it..
    I dont know. A far as I can see Europe and Asia have better boxing prospects coming through which is shown by the dominance of these fighters at amateur levels. Id be pretty sure there is a decline in US champions compared to 10 years ago but couldnt be sure (Im not counting Mexico as US). Outside of Floyd and Ward, I dont think there is much potential for complete dominance from a US fighter the way GGG could dominate the MW div, or Yamanaka could dominate the BW div. I dont think Danny Garcia is the future of the Welterweight div. The only 2 US guys with realistic chances of dominating are Thurman and Mikey Garcia (arguably mexican)
    There is no decline in US champions...and there sure as hell aren't any young fighters from Europe(LOL) and Asia poised to take over anything.

    Mexico is declining....Puerto Rico as well..but not the US....all you have to do is look around.

    GGG old ass isn't dominating anything but his dead division.
    Garcia isn't a dominant fighter.

    Who do they have to replace GG..Kovalev...and those old Klits??

    NOBODY.

    Where are the 22 y/o Russian/Khazak prospects??

    Even their prospects are OLD.

    Lomenchenko is the only young guy they have and he's about to get killed by GRjr

    They can raise hell in the amateurs all they want...but the PROS is where it is and where they are not.
    L Fly - Naoya Inoue

    Fly - Roman Gonzalez

    Bantomweight - Yamanaka, Kameda, Ceja, Butler

    Super Bantom - Frampton, Quigg, Santa Cruz, Servania, Vargas

    Feather - Lomachenko

    Super Feather - Fortuna, Barthelemy, Ramirez, Ito, Naito

    Lightweight - Vasquez

    L - Welter - Dulorme, Shakhnazaryan

    Welter - Belaev, Ponomarev, Zewski

    LMW - Alvarez , Rabchenko

    MW - Murata, Saunders, Uzcategui, Ogogo, Magomedov

    SMW - Groves, Degale, Smith


    Can you name as many good US prospects/contenders in these divs? Didnt bother go into the heavier weights as US fighters are shit up here at the moment.

    There are good US prospects but its retarded to think that US dominates the sport like it did in the past. Cyclones clearly a flag hugging american. Wouldnt be surprised to find out he lives down South, makes 6 bucks and hours, lives in a shack but still thinks america is the greatest country in the world.

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