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[Gandalf]

William Burroughs - "Democracy is cancerous, and bureaus are its cancer. A bureau takes root anywhere in the state, turns malignant like the Narcotics Bureau, and grows and grows, always reproducing more of its own kind, until it chokes the host if not controlled or excised....Bureaus die when the structure of the state collapses."

What we are witnessing in the case of America is something quite terrifying and way out of control. Numerous states are now passing laws making it criminal to feed homeless people and now people with next to nothing are being told they cannot live on the land which is ultimately all anyone has to fall back on when times become unbearable. A few weeks ago the police shot dead an old man living rough in the mountains and for seemingly no reason other than him living rough. This type of scenario seems to be all too common and the state is now illegitimate. It is waging war on its own citizens from the homeless up to anyone without the wealth to buy elections of get in at the bureau trough.

Now, do you get it? Why do you think certain posters here like myself and Victor Charlie are against the Federal and State govt. in taking away our rights to bear arms? It's not for hunting, I can tell you that. It's for a last resort that the average American can take up arms against a government that is becoming tyrannical each day. That's the reason why many Americans do not want to give up the 2nd amendment. The 1st amendment has already been severely compromised, and the 2nd amendment is under assault from the govt.

I've understood it for several years now. I touched on it a little in my edit in the last post, but I will clarify it a little further. I really believe that a country is enhanced with the nationalisation of key utilities. The UK for instance would have cheaper energy, public transportation, and housing amongst others if these things had not been sold off to external interests that in the long run could only do harm to the average person. I believe that a redistributive taxation system is good for society. I believe the state can and should provide a solid health and education system. However, and this is where I have been changing, the state that did, and was trying to exist, largely before I was born, has been dismantled, and broken up. Taxes are as high as ever, but everything has been sold off including the mail service last year at half its proper value. Big corporations and the rich are not paying taxes and so the system is a fraud designed to attack the middle man that doesn't have clever accountants. It is therefore corrupt and people should resist.

The state with brilliant values as espoused by the likes of Tony Benn is gone. Instead of cheap housing, energy etc, we have cancerous departments run for banks and government friends, unchecked immigration, out of control spooks, rampant cronyism, political correctness it just goes on and on. I then contrast it to how I live outside of that system, and though just a teacher, at least I feel somewhat free. I see that when a government isn't big, I don't need to pay so much in tax. It means freedom for others too and self responsibility. It means instead of people turning to the state that people can help each other. People cannot rely on a government system that relies on permanently growing as it does become rotten when banks own the system and eventually people are not going to get anything from it and so it will have to die. As I say, if that government system was trying to help society, then I am for it, but as these huge government systems are, I think they are vampiric and self serving. There is no pretense at real socialism to enhance society and taxes are massive. Just by going to a supermarket the Brits are spending 12.5% more than me and that goes where exactly? Wars, banks, and cronyism (fracking, fat Dave's bankrupt business chums etc).

I appreciate reading some of the views of others as I have been evolving somewhat politically too. For me, I am not completely sold on the libertarian point of view, but in a system of tyranny, I think you have to resist a system that is illegitimate. I like people like VC and despite my vitriol against the US government, I think there are swathes of good people in America, and I am on their side. I think we are in tumultuous times and I don't like what is coming at all. It is terrifying. I think in times like these people who want to do good just have to join and put ideological differences to the side and face it. We all agree that victimising independent people who want to live in nature is nonsense. I think, right or left, we are sick of the wars too. They cannot pull the wool over the eyes any longer.