You make some pretty broad claims below.

Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
The US is still the most dominant nation in boxing...and that won't change anytime soon...or ever.
We dominate the hottest divisions and have the youth to replace the old guys...the Championship pedegree can't be compared or rivaled.

Hahahaha. I wonder if geocentric broadcasters have anything to do with that generality.

Hev-No. Not one champion and only about 4 or 5 guys in the top 20. One a creation because of the hev drought you have suffered.
200-No. Not one champion. Nobody in the top 20
175- No. One aging champion and 2 guys in the top 15 who will never be champion again.
168-No. One champion who is spinning his wheels. Two in the top 20
160-No. One champion who won’t fight anyone. About 3 guys in the top 15
154-No. 2 champions and about 5 guys in the top 20
147-Yes/No. 3 champions and about 8 in the top 20, Floyd has been dominant.
140-No. You have 2 champions and one that’s a bit of a paper weight. About 6 guys in the top 15 including both champs. One of those although competitive is a gatekeeper and one that has now he his brains scrambled in about 5 fights in a row.
135-No. 2 champions and about 5 in the top 15 including those two.
130-No. 1 champion and about 5 or 6 mixed into the top 15 or 20
126-No. Zero champions and I gifted fighter who seems hesitant along with about 3 in the top 15
122- No champs and no body in the top 15.
118-Ditto
115-Ditto
112-Villoria
108-same as 122
105-Ditto

You call that Domination? South Africa has 4 world champions. You have 300 million people and are so infatuated with the heavyweight division that you construct a guy and feed him scraps to compile some inflated ko record and then buy into it even though it’s a fib. Now please don’t confuse the facts with anti-Americanism.


US fighters are the most imitated idolized and studied.

What do you mean imitated? Style wise? Give one example of this imitation?
Idolized? Floyd is. I’m surprised he has not been declared a prophet.
Studied? You mean like Floyd studied uncle Roger’s style.and Roger Mr. Benton and Mr Benton Mr. Burley and Burley Mr. Langford and Langford Mr. Mace kind of study?
What do you mean study?



MOST of the foreign fighters around today are in their 30's....and there sure as hell isn't any youth movement behind them.

A blanket statement that is downright false and on multiple levels. Many divisions are absolutely stacked and the sport is still thriving all over Asia, South America, Mexico and the British domestic scene is crazy.

What we don't have are LOYAL FANS.

Floyd has a cult. I know lots of loyal American fans. Lots on this site. Many objective ones

Brits support there own be they White as Hatton or Black as Bruno..

I was waiting for some kind of twist on the race card earlier.

Americans would rather cheer for a Russian or an Argentine than an American...But you best believe Russians and Argentines NEVER pull for American fighters.

They aren't stupid like that.


Another groundless blanket statement. If anything on a whole Americans like different fighters from all over and “would rather” has nothing to do with it. People still cheer for people based on skin colour but that certainly is not something exclusive to America.

American fighters have fans all over the world and plenty of people who want to see them lose just like anywhere else.

So a fan does not cheer for all his countrymen in boxing on purely nationalistic reasons alone and that means he/she is stupid? I call that open minded and quite the opposite of stupid.


If Floyd walked away from the biggest fight in HISTORY because of drug testing, the US media would replace Barry bonds and Mark McGuirre with Mayweather as the poster boy for steroids.
HBO picked up on the thirst for foreign fighters coming from WITHIN the US and have gone almost exclusively foreign.
I love watching them fail.

Not sure what you are going on about in those final comments.
If only Golovkin was American eh, he'd be a cross over star.