Unpleasant news regarding Golovkin's next fight

[Rantcatrat]

Finito isn't a fan of GGG.

Geale is a top 5 middleweight. GGG is (slowly) cleaning out the division. It's a good fight. Martinez and the crop at 168 are better, but it's a solid fight.

top 5 middleweight doesnt mean shit nowadays.

GGG is too old to be slowly cleaning out his dead division.

Too bad he isn't from the hood....he'd be required to "challenge himself" and "take more risks"...but since he's a foreigner and so many of ya'll are thirsty for any king of a hero...he gets a pass.

You contradict yourself, my friend, or maybe I'm having difficulty following you. You state that (1) GGG should challenge himself and take more risks (2) but it's wrong to want fighters from the hood to challenge themselves and take more risks. Are you suggesting no fighter should be expected to challenge themselves and take more risks or all fighters should be expected to challenge themselves and take more risks?

There are some people on this board, @Ron Swanson , for example, that wants GGG to move up to 168 now, and thinks there is no point to fighting the boxers at 160 because he's above their level. @Ron Swanson - correct me if I'm wrong on describing your opinion.
@Ron Swanson and I have respectfully disagreed in the past on this point. In my opinion, GGG only recently became more of an A-side (if he is one yet), and he should take 2013 to try to clean out the middleweight division before moving up. Frankly, if he beats Geale, and the Martinez/Cotto winner ducks him, there's no one really left at 160 to fight. So, he should move up (unless a top junior middleweight moves up) if he is trying to improve his legacy.

By the way, please leave me out of the foreigner versus American debate.

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Finito isn't a fan of GGG.

Geale is a top 5 middleweight. GGG is (slowly) cleaning out the division. It's a good fight. Martinez and the crop at 168 are better, but it's a solid fight.

top 5 middleweight doesnt mean shit nowadays.

GGG is too old to be slowly cleaning out his dead division.

Too bad he isn't from the hood....he'd be required to "challenge himself" and "take more risks"...but since he's a foreigner and so many of ya'll are thirsty for any king of a hero...he gets a pass.

You contradict yourself, my friend, or maybe I'm having difficulty following you. You state that (1) GGG should challenge himself and take more risks (2) but it's wrong to want fighters from the hood to challenge themselves and take more risks. Are you suggesting no fighter should be expected to challenge themselves and take more risks or all fighters should be expected to challenge themselves and take more risks?

There are some people on this board, @Ron Swanson , for example, that wants GGG to move up to 168 now, and thinks there is no point to fighting the boxers at 160 because he's above their level. @Ron Swanson - correct me if I'm wrong on describing your opinion.
@Ron Swanson and I have respectfully disagreed in the past on this point. In my opinion, GGG only recently became more of an A-side (if he is one yet), and he should take 2013 to try to clean out the middleweight division before moving up. Frankly, if he beats Geale, and the Martinez/Cotto winner ducks him, there's no one really left at 160 to fight. So, he should move up (unless a top junior middleweight moves up) if he is trying to improve his legacy.

By the way, please leave me out of the foreigner versus American debate.

I am suggesting you hold GG to the same standards you hold Floyd and Broner to.

Why cant GG fight Ward and move back down to 160?

It's been done before...not by any of ya'll...but it has been done.

[Rantcatrat]

Finito isn't a fan of GGG.

Geale is a top 5 middleweight. GGG is (slowly) cleaning out the division. It's a good fight. Martinez and the crop at 168 are better, but it's a solid fight.

top 5 middleweight doesnt mean shit nowadays.

GGG is too old to be slowly cleaning out his dead division.

Too bad he isn't from the hood....he'd be required to "challenge himself" and "take more risks"...but since he's a foreigner and so many of ya'll are thirsty for any king of a hero...he gets a pass.

You contradict yourself, my friend, or maybe I'm having difficulty following you. You state that (1) GGG should challenge himself and take more risks (2) but it's wrong to want fighters from the hood to challenge themselves and take more risks. Are you suggesting no fighter should be expected to challenge themselves and take more risks or all fighters should be expected to challenge themselves and take more risks?

There are some people on this board, @Ron Swanson , for example, that wants GGG to move up to 168 now, and thinks there is no point to fighting the boxers at 160 because he's above their level. @Ron Swanson - correct me if I'm wrong on describing your opinion.
@Ron Swanson and I have respectfully disagreed in the past on this point. In my opinion, GGG only recently became more of an A-side (if he is one yet), and he should take 2013 to try to clean out the middleweight division before moving up. Frankly, if he beats Geale, and the Martinez/Cotto winner ducks him, there's no one really left at 160 to fight. So, he should move up (unless a top junior middleweight moves up) if he is trying to improve his legacy.

By the way, please leave me out of the foreigner versus American debate.

I am suggesting you hold GG to the same standards you hold Floyd and Broner to.

Why cant GG fight Ward and move back down to 160?

It's been done before...not by any of ya'll...but it has been done.

What do you mean by "ya'll?" I'm from the United States, my friend.

Like I said, keep me out of the Americans versus European discussion.

Why can't Ward move up to 175 to face Stevenson or Kovalev? He's cleaned out the 168 division already. What else is there for him to prove at 168? Why should he face Edwin Rodriguez at 168 when Rodriguez is a lower top ten guy at 168?

I hold him to the same standards as Broner and Floyd. Once GGG cleans out the division, or all the fighters around his weight won't fight him, he should move up. I absolutely agree. I wouldn't blame him for not going at the best at 168, Ward, without taking a fight with another top guy first, but he shouldn't take much more time with fighting lower level top ten guys. GGG hasn't been on the big stage as long as they have and doesn't get paid the same amount of money they do.

Broner got paid $1.5 million to face Molina on the Floyd undercard. He deserves grief if he turns in a bad performance. Floyd is the best fighter on the planet without taking into account weight. So, he's earned scrutiny.

I try and hold everyone to the same high standard. If I slip up, tell me.