UK - Council and European Election

[Dia bando]

Well there are jobs for them if they are willing to work for less and undercut the British worker.

I see Greenbeanz makes the distinction between legal and illegal immigration and myself don't see a distinction. There has never been an open debate and referendum on immigration, thus all immigration is illegitimate. Now if a case was made that key jobs need to be filled from overseas then make it, but don't open up the borders on the sly, as was done, and 3 million later, say 'Ooh, I'm surprised you noticed'.

No more Europe and no more open borders and it works both ways. Britain should adopt a policy like most countries do and perhaps encourage parents to be better parents like here where every kid wants to be either a doctor, nurse, businessman, etc. In the UK it's all 'Ooh, I'm going to be a singer and if that fails I will study English drama'. Just idiocy. 'Nursing is not sexy enough' and geology and sociology are? Nursing is useful and far more useful than the latter two options. If we are judging sexiness it is one of the sexier courses on a factual basis. The failure of Britain is institutional and also embedded deep in the rotten core of the family unit where too many families living on the dole, couldn't care less what the kid should be. If the families are working ones then equally, the child has to be a neglected as there is no time for him. He makes up his own mind a football player it is. Just useless. Thus the English grow up deluded, out of touch, then inevitably fail against immigrants who know it's just about doing anything to scrape by. Unfortunately by this stage English kids are in 40000 pounds of debt and and at a greater disadvantage. It's an abusive system.

Stars in there eyes Miles you could say, perhaps we need employ our own first and stop employing
immigrant workers, you walk in some factory's you would be hard pressed to find English being spoken
I kid you not, well that's what it's like in some places.!

[Gandalf]

I've heard about it first hand. My friend Ritchie is the last man standing in an egg factory surrounded by Poles. It's absurd how this has happened and my only suggestion is to treat it as an occupation and react accordingly. The system is an occupation, this in no way resembles or reflects a government run in the interests of the general public. When this happens the system is illegitimate and people need to become the law. You don't follow the law, you become the law and this is done in numerous ways.

[Kirkland Laing]

I don't vote but if I did vote I would have voted UKIP. I'm hoping the EU doesn't reform significantly especially as far as the free movement of labour goes and we could see UKIP become a serious political force and hold the balance of power within a couple of elections.

I really like what the Front National are standing for in France. A decent welfare stste to protect citizens from the ravages of globalisation, protection of domestic industry from the ravages of globalisation, government running the banking system, an end to corporate/big business control of the economy and the G4Sisation of government services and of course boot all the recent immigrants out. This is the recipe that advanced economies need to adopt along with some kind of immigration points qualification system like Australia has so that we can let in regulated non-domestic-labour-rates-cutting numbers of honest hard-working skilled people and keep all the scum out.

[Beanz]

I don't vote but if I did vote I would have voted UKIP. I'm hoping the EU doesn't reform significantly especially as far as the free movement of labour goes and we could see UKIP become a serious political force and hold the balance of power within a couple of elections.

I really like what the Front National are standing for in France. A decent welfare stste to protect citizens from the ravages of globalisation, protection of domestic industry from the ravages of globalisation, government running the banking system, an end to corporate/big business control of the economy and the G4Sisation of government services and of course boot all the recent immigrants out. This is the recipe that advanced economies need to adopt along with some kind of immigration points qualification system like Australia has so that we can let in regulated non-domestic-labour-rates-cutting numbers of honest hard-working skilled people and keep all the scum out.

All that with your little free Palestine Giff featuring the Pope. Statements like

"and of course boot all the recent immigrants out"

and

"keep all the scum out"

reveals your hand and loses you many a future poker game.

"ALL the recent immigrants" ?

Does that mean skilled and unskilled ? All the chefs? All the restaurant owners? All the teachers? All the consultants, doctors and care staff? all the scientists? all the interpreters? all the people who have stared small businesses employing English ? All the students? all the actors? all the bar staff?

Define recent

this year
last year
last decade
since the 70's
since the 50's
since the 1900's ?

Just the Europeans ? what about the Indians ? or the Pakistanis ? or the Afro-Caribbeans? or the Somalis or how about the Jews? the Australians ? The Americans? The Canadians?

[Kirkland Laing]

I don't vote but if I did vote I would have voted UKIP. I'm hoping the EU doesn't reform significantly especially as far as the free movement of labour goes and we could see UKIP become a serious political force and hold the balance of power within a couple of elections.

I really like what the Front National are standing for in France. A decent welfare stste to protect citizens from the ravages of globalisation, protection of domestic industry from the ravages of globalisation, government running the banking system, an end to corporate/big business control of the economy and the G4Sisation of government services and of course boot all the recent immigrants out. This is the recipe that advanced economies need to adopt along with some kind of immigration points qualification system like Australia has so that we can let in regulated non-domestic-labour-rates-cutting numbers of honest hard-working skilled people and keep all the scum out.

All that with your little free Palestine Giff featuring the Pope. Statements like

"and of course boot all the recent immigrants out"

and

"keep all the scum out"

reveals your hand and loses you many a future poker game.

"ALL the recent immigrants" ?

Does that mean skilled and unskilled ? All the chefs? All the restaurant owners? All the teachers? All the consultants, doctors and care staff? all the scientists? all the interpreters? all the people who have stared small businesses employing English ? All the students? all the actors? all the bar staff?

Define recent

this year
last year
last decade
since the 70's
since the 50's
since the 1900's ?

Just the Europeans ? what about the Indians ? or the Pakistanis ? or the Afro-Caribbeans? or the Somalis or how about the Jews? the Australians ? The Americans? The Canadians?

All the ones not working and a big chunk of the unskilled ones. Offer unemployed Brits the unskilled jobs on a minimum wage and if they don't take it stop all their benefits and boot the fuckers out of their government-paid housing.

Actually ha ve a regulated system that doesn't flood the market with vast amounts of unskilled labour. The current system allows employers to pay Brits at the low end of the earnings scale about 15-20% less than they would with controlled immigration. The government also allows employers to pay less than minimum wage with almost no penalty. This should end and employers should be fined up the yin yang if they're caught paying --especially immigrants -- less than minimum wage.


Basically run the country in favour of the vast majority of the people who live in it and not in favour of a tiny minority who profit from the current situation, and I speak as one of the tiny minority. The system is far too unbalanced right now.

I've been making the same points over and over again since 2007 since I joined this site, I'm sure you know my routine backwards by now. I've actually had the same views -- inequality of income causing massive economic problems, no regulation fucking the financial system up and so on -- since just before the end of last century. As somebody burdened with the fact of being always right about everything all the time it's extremely annoying watching the world continue to fuck things up when it could be run much better and it's also very gratifying when the people who run the world eventually realise that I was right and contemplate their own supreme arrogance at thinking they knew better than Kirkland Laing, The Infallible One:


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