SKY Box Ofice - FROCH V GROVES 2 - Unfinished Business -Saturday Night Chat Thread

[Primo Carnera]

Mitchell WTF!!!! When was the check weigh-in? 12lbs over. That's ridiculous. I'm so pissed off with him, I'm a big fan of his, I reckon he's got great talent and gets stuck right in.
What pisses me off is that in the week building up to the fight, he's telling everyone he's ready blah blah blah KNOWING FULL WELL he's walking round A STONE over the limit. That's just conning the fans. He must have known he had weight issues weeks ago, why does it not come out till now?
Btw I thought his opponent looked bigger and in great shape.

He weighed in under the limit. It's this morning he has failed the check-in weight. He has re hydrated by 12lbs rather than the 10 that is permissible. He might not have been having any weight issues in the build up.

Ah, I see, thanks for clearing that up. I thought they were talking about a check weigh-in BEFORE the proper weigh-in. In that case, it's a bit unfair saying he might not get a title shot if he wins.
I know rules are there for a reason, but I'm not sure if you can have much control about how much your body re-hydrates by. And in the states, some guys like Maidana for example are about a stone and a half heavier by the time they get in the ring.
Let's hope it takes nothing away from the fight, because I reckon this was going to be the best fight on the undercard.

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Predictions from Boxers

Amir Khan

(Former world light-welterweight champion)
Groves knows he can hurt Froch; Froch knows he can hurt Groves. Froch won’t be so macho this time; he knows he can get knocked down.
Verdict: FROCH

James DeGale

(Lost to Groves in 2011)
I keep changing my mind. Groves boxed well last time but Froch is the champion; he has a lot of heart and a good chin.
Verdict: GROVES

Tyson Fury

(Undefeated heavyweight)
I don’t think Groves is world class but Froch will have to stop him because he won’t get a points decision.
Verdict: FROCH

Lennox Lewis

(Former undisputed world heavyweight champion)
I think Froch will start quicker this time but he has to watch out for the big right hand from Groves.
Verdict: FROCH

Anthony Joshua

(Olympic super-heavyweight champion)
Froch is experienced; Groves is skilful. Groves is likely to start sharp as he did last time, but I think Froch is going to break him down.
Verdict: FROCH

Johnny Nelson

(Former world cruiserweight champion)
I don’t see this going the distance — they are too explosive. It’ll take a lot of concentration and control from Groves not to go for glory; the red mist can come down with him.
Verdict: FROCH

Matthew Macklin

(British middleweight)
As the fight goes on and the sharpness leaves Groves, Froch’s strength and stamina will become a factor. I’m leaning towards Froch by late stoppage or close points win.
Verdict: FROCH

Scott Quigg

(World super bantamweight champion)
Froch will start quicker this time, he can’t be as cagey and he’s got to have a tighter defence. I think he’ll be behind after six but will catch up in the later rounds.
Verdict: FROCH

Tony Bellew

(British cruiserweight)
Froch will be more wary this time. I can see Groves winning the first few rounds as he did in the first fight. But I expect a more conclusive stoppage for Froch, between rounds 8 and 12.
Verdict: FROCH

Thomas Stalker

(Former Team GB captain)
My old GB team-mate Anthony Fowler has been sparring with Froch, and he says he is looking pretty good. I can see a Froch KO or Groves winning on points. If I had to bet I’d go for Froch.
Verdict: FROCH

Predictions from others



Jamie Carragher

I hope it lives up to the pre-fight talk. I like Groves’ style and he was unlucky not to win the first bout, but he might have missed his chance. I can’t see Froch making the same mistakes twice.
Verdict: FROCH
Andy Murray

I think it’s pretty much a 50/50 fight. Whoever performs best on the night will win; if I was betting I would bet on Froch to win.
Verdict: FROCH

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Jamie Redknapp

Froch can’t box any worse than he did in the first few rounds last time. I change my mind every minute. They will come out slugging which is why I think it will be Froch in the early rounds.
Verdict: FROCH
Jack Wilshere

Groves shut a lot of people up last time. People thought he was just a mouthy little Londoner, but he walked the walk.
Verdict: GROVES

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Froch is going to have to bring it tonight. If he let's Groves that the lead on get off first there no way Froch can win. If Froch stays on top of Groves he wins. Great fight either way.