NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

[IamInuit]

Cotto haters need to at least try to be objective. What is Martinez doing defending his title using a knee brace? What next an arm brace because somebody has a shot elbow? Why should he be able to get leverage advantage through artificial means? This is ridiculous and if that injury is that bad then quit fighting.

[bradlee180]

Cotto haters need to at least try to be objective. What is Martinez doing defending his title using a knee brace? What next an arm brace because somebody has a shot elbow? Why should he be able to get leverage advantage through artificial means? This is ridiculous and if that injury is that bad then quit fighting.

...You could also include needing xylocaine injections in the hands to numb them to be able to fight. But then a guy'd only be able to fight in Nevada because xylocaine in the hands in banned by most other athletic commissions in the USA.

[ruthless rocco]

Martinez should pull out of the fight if the conditions aren't suiting him.
He's the champion. He's anti bullying... Just walk away and choose to defend against someone else.

[jon09]

Martinez should pull out of the fight if the conditions aren't suiting him.
He's the champion. He's anti bullying... Just walk away and choose to defend against someone else.

Agreed... Martinez is the undisputed champion of the world and should have never agreed to these bullshit terms in the 1st place. I like Cotto but the whole A side B side crap is nonsense when it comes to respect to the champion and Cotto should have understood that. You want the belts come and get them on a level playing field.

[Pavlik]

Martinez should pull out of the fight if the conditions aren't suiting him.
He's the champion. He's anti bullying... Just walk away and choose to defend against someone else.

Agreed... Martinez is the undisputed champion of the world and should have never agreed to these bullshit terms in the 1st place. I like Cotto but the whole A side B side crap is nonsense when it comes to respect to the champion and Cotto should have understood that. You want the belts come and get them on a level playing field.

It was never a level playing field from the get go. Cotto is already a small junior middleweight to begin with.

[armin]

Cotto haters need to at least try to be objective. What is Martinez doing defending his title using a knee brace? What next an arm brace because somebody has a shot elbow? Why should he be able to get leverage advantage through artificial means? This is ridiculous and if that injury is that bad then quit fighting.

Why are they doing this tho this time? Yuri had a brace on when he defended against cotto I'm sure there are other examples and this doesn't seem to usually be banned

[generalbulldog]

Cotto haters need to at least try to be objective. What is Martinez doing defending his title using a knee brace? What next an arm brace because somebody has a shot elbow? Why should he be able to get leverage advantage through artificial means? This is ridiculous and if that injury is that bad then quit fighting.

Absolutely right. Imagine if Floyd Mayweather said his shoulders hurt from using his vaunted shoulder rolls and was allowed to use American football shoulder pads for his championship fights. The outrage would be endless. Now it's considered "unfair" by Sergio fans that he can't use a knee brace. If you're not in tip top condition to fight anymore, then retire.

[Beanz]

Cotto haters need to at least try to be objective. What is Martinez doing defending his title using a knee brace? What next an arm brace because somebody has a shot elbow? Why should he be able to get leverage advantage through artificial means? This is ridiculous and if that injury is that bad then quit fighting.

Absolutely right. Imagine if Floyd Mayweather said his shoulders hurt from using his vaunted shoulder rolls and was allowed to use American football shoulder pads for his championship fights. The outrage would be endless. Now it's considered "unfair" by Sergio fans that he can't use a knee brace. If you're not in tip top condition to fight anymore, then retire.

Damaged hands. Calzaghe retires. Damaged hands Floyd carries on. Concistency gentlemen.

[p4pking]

Yea, using Floyd as an example is a bit rich given his hand injections

Could a brace conceivably help anyone without a bad knee to begin with? I really don't know, but I do seem to remember Yuri Foreman wearing one, in his fight against Cotto, in New York

[IamInuit]

Yea, using Floyd as an example is a bit rich given his hand injections

Could a brace conceivably help anyone without a bad knee to begin with? I really don't know, but I do seem to remember Yuri Foreman wearing one, in his fight against Cotto, in New York

This whole thing could be a simple case of lost in translation. What constitutes a brace. That pic of the thing Chavez is wearing is not a brace. I wore one of those when I played Volleyball. Another thing people ought to remember instead of shitting on Cotto is the fact that the NYSAC made the call not Cotto.
It may be convenient to just blame Cotto like he runs the commission but for lack of a better term its also just stupid. Hopefully they explain what the problem is.

[ruthless rocco]

I have read that the NYSAC made this decision about not allowing fighting with knee braces in 2013.
It's something that Martinez and his handlers should have known about in advance of signing the fight.
So it's not about Sergio specifically...and it's his bad for not looking into whether his special needs were legal under NYSAC rules.

[p4pking]

Yea, using Floyd as an example is a bit rich given his hand injections

Could a brace conceivably help anyone without a bad knee to begin with? I really don't know, but I do seem to remember Yuri Foreman wearing one, in his fight against Cotto, in New York

This whole thing could be a simple case of lost in translation. What constitutes a brace. That pic of the thing Chavez is wearing is not a brace. I wore one of those when I played Volleyball. Another thing people ought to remember instead of shitting on Cotto is the fact that the NYSAC made the call not Cotto.
It may be convenient to just blame Cotto like he runs the commission but for lack of a better term its also just stupid. Hopefully they explain what the problem is.

Right, and that's what I assume Martinez wanted to wear here? It's the kind of thing you see on all sorts of athletes. I just can't see how the commission could justify banning Martinez from wearing the same thing they allowed Yuri Foreman to wear, how is that even remotely justifiable? I don't think it's unlikely that Cottos camp may have leaned on them into ruling this way at all, and I don't dislike the guy, or even see that so much as laying blame myself. Some fighters absolutely are bigger than the state commissions in these instances, it's not like a universal body in a legitimate sport, this is boxing

[IamInuit]

Well it was sorted out. The NYSAC has reversed its ruling. It is just what I would call a tensioned knee pad and not what I would call a "brace"

TUESDAY AFTERNOON UPDATE: BraceGate is a done deal, friends. The New York State Athletic Commission informed Team Martinez that the sleeves he wants to wear, to offer a bit of extra support to his knees, are A-OK with them. Thus, Sergio can have that peace of mind heading into his Saturday clash against Miguel Cotto at Madison Square Garden.

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[Silkeyjoe]

Yea, using Floyd as an example is a bit rich given his hand injections

Could a brace conceivably help anyone without a bad knee to begin with? I really don't know, but I do seem to remember Yuri Foreman wearing one, in his fight against Cotto, in New York

This whole thing could be a simple case of lost in translation. What constitutes a brace. That pic of the thing Chavez is wearing is not a brace. I wore one of those when I played Volleyball. Another thing people ought to remember instead of shitting on Cotto is the fact that the NYSAC made the call not Cotto.
It may be convenient to just blame Cotto like he runs the commission but for lack of a better term its also just stupid. Hopefully they explain what the problem is.

Right, and that's what I assume Martinez wanted to wear here? It's the kind of thing you see on all sorts of athletes. I just can't see how the commission could justify banning Martinez from wearing the same thing they allowed Yuri Foreman to wear, how is that even remotely justifiable? I don't think it's unlikely that Cottos camp may have leaned on them into ruling this way at all, and I don't dislike the guy, or even see that so much as laying blame myself. Some fighters absolutely are bigger than the state commissions in these instances, it's not like a universal body in a legitimate sport, this is boxing

Lol you play Volleyball?

Im gonna back Martinez by KO. All this is just gonna geet him mad and Cotto wont be able to handle speed and power, his face will be a mess when the ref saves him.