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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Cotto haters need to at least try to be objective. What is Martinez doing defending his title using a knee brace? What next an arm brace because somebody has a shot elbow? Why should he be able to get leverage advantage through artificial means? This is ridiculous and if that injury is that bad then quit fighting.
    Absolutely right. Imagine if Floyd Mayweather said his shoulders hurt from using his vaunted shoulder rolls and was allowed to use American football shoulder pads for his championship fights. The outrage would be endless. Now it's considered "unfair" by Sergio fans that he can't use a knee brace. If you're not in tip top condition to fight anymore, then retire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Cotto haters need to at least try to be objective. What is Martinez doing defending his title using a knee brace? What next an arm brace because somebody has a shot elbow? Why should he be able to get leverage advantage through artificial means? This is ridiculous and if that injury is that bad then quit fighting.
    Absolutely right. Imagine if Floyd Mayweather said his shoulders hurt from using his vaunted shoulder rolls and was allowed to use American football shoulder pads for his championship fights. The outrage would be endless. Now it's considered "unfair" by Sergio fans that he can't use a knee brace. If you're not in tip top condition to fight anymore, then retire.
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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Yea, using Floyd as an example is a bit rich given his hand injections

    Could a brace conceivably help anyone without a bad knee to begin with? I really don't know, but I do seem to remember Yuri Foreman wearing one, in his fight against Cotto, in New York

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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Yea, using Floyd as an example is a bit rich given his hand injections

    Could a brace conceivably help anyone without a bad knee to begin with? I really don't know, but I do seem to remember Yuri Foreman wearing one, in his fight against Cotto, in New York

    This whole thing could be a simple case of lost in translation. What constitutes a brace. That pic of the thing Chavez is wearing is not a brace. I wore one of those when I played Volleyball. Another thing people ought to remember instead of shitting on Cotto is the fact that the NYSAC made the call not Cotto.
    It may be convenient to just blame Cotto like he runs the commission but for lack of a better term its also just stupid. Hopefully they explain what the problem is.

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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    I have read that the NYSAC made this decision about not allowing fighting with knee braces in 2013.
    It's something that Martinez and his handlers should have known about in advance of signing the fight.
    So it's not about Sergio specifically...and it's his bad for not looking into whether his special needs were legal under NYSAC rules.
    Last edited by ruthless rocco; 06-04-2014 at 05:09 PM.

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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Yea, using Floyd as an example is a bit rich given his hand injections

    Could a brace conceivably help anyone without a bad knee to begin with? I really don't know, but I do seem to remember Yuri Foreman wearing one, in his fight against Cotto, in New York

    This whole thing could be a simple case of lost in translation. What constitutes a brace. That pic of the thing Chavez is wearing is not a brace. I wore one of those when I played Volleyball. Another thing people ought to remember instead of shitting on Cotto is the fact that the NYSAC made the call not Cotto.
    It may be convenient to just blame Cotto like he runs the commission but for lack of a better term its also just stupid. Hopefully they explain what the problem is.
    Right, and that's what I assume Martinez wanted to wear here? It's the kind of thing you see on all sorts of athletes. I just can't see how the commission could justify banning Martinez from wearing the same thing they allowed Yuri Foreman to wear, how is that even remotely justifiable? I don't think it's unlikely that Cottos camp may have leaned on them into ruling this way at all, and I don't dislike the guy, or even see that so much as laying blame myself. Some fighters absolutely are bigger than the state commissions in these instances, it's not like a universal body in a legitimate sport, this is boxing

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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Well it was sorted out. The NYSAC has reversed its ruling. It is just what I would call a tensioned knee pad and not what I would call a "brace"

    TUESDAY AFTERNOON UPDATE: BraceGate is a done deal, friends. The New York State Athletic Commission informed Team Martinez that the sleeves he wants to wear, to offer a bit of extra support to his knees, are A-OK with them. Thus, Sergio can have that peace of mind heading into his Saturday clash against Miguel Cotto at Madison Square Garden.
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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Any knee support should be allowed. Ridiculous. Nigel Benn use to wear ankle supports!
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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    Cotto is the house fighter here. The NYSAC are doing everything they can to extend his career.

    If Sergio wins comfortably on points how confident will he feel in the ring afterwards waiting for the decision?

    I don't buy that in this case and I called Cotto on his stupid weight demand and name appearing first on the banner.Again, if that knee is still that fk'd up then Martinez should have retired. He does not have a special right to gain leverage through artificial means anymore then someone has to do steroids. What next an elbow brace for arm extension of full fake limb? A great play for a built in excuse though.

    They've let fighters wear them in the past but they're not letting Martinez wear one. Res ipsa loquitur.

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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Well it was sorted out. The NYSAC has reversed its ruling. It is just what I would call a tensioned knee pad and not what I would call a "brace"

    TUESDAY AFTERNOON UPDATE: BraceGate is a done deal, friends. The New York State Athletic Commission informed Team Martinez that the sleeves he wants to wear, to offer a bit of extra support to his knees, are A-OK with them. Thus, Sergio can have that peace of mind heading into his Saturday clash against Miguel Cotto at Madison Square Garden.
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    Well that's good, a whole lot of much ado about nothing guess they came to. Does the NYSAC ever give specifics on judgment's and reversals btw? Did he actually have surgery on both knees. I just want that damn bell to ring already, lets hope for a definitive and conclusive shootout

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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by p4pking View Post
    Yea, using Floyd as an example is a bit rich given his hand injections

    Could a brace conceivably help anyone without a bad knee to begin with? I really don't know, but I do seem to remember Yuri Foreman wearing one, in his fight against Cotto, in New York

    This whole thing could be a simple case of lost in translation. What constitutes a brace. That pic of the thing Chavez is wearing is not a brace. I wore one of those when I played Volleyball. Another thing people ought to remember instead of shitting on Cotto is the fact that the NYSAC made the call not Cotto.
    It may be convenient to just blame Cotto like he runs the commission but for lack of a better term its also just stupid. Hopefully they explain what the problem is.
    Right, and that's what I assume Martinez wanted to wear here? It's the kind of thing you see on all sorts of athletes. I just can't see how the commission could justify banning Martinez from wearing the same thing they allowed Yuri Foreman to wear, how is that even remotely justifiable? I don't think it's unlikely that Cottos camp may have leaned on them into ruling this way at all, and I don't dislike the guy, or even see that so much as laying blame myself. Some fighters absolutely are bigger than the state commissions in these instances, it's not like a universal body in a legitimate sport, this is boxing
    Lol you play Volleyball?

    Im gonna back Martinez by KO. All this is just gonna geet him mad and Cotto wont be able to handle speed and power, his face will be a mess when the ref saves him.

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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Cotto is the home fighter. He is a New York regular. The first two initials of the NYSAC signify New York. Do the math.


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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Cotto is the home fighter. He is a New York regular. The first two initials of the NYSAC signify New York. Do the math.

    Are you insinuating that Cotto is getting preferential treatment?
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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    It's a non-issue.


    The NYSAC reversed its ruling and now will allow Sergio to wear the knee supports.
    Like someone said, it had been the NYSAC's call in the first place, and not Cotto's. People need to get a grip.
    They're not the classic maximum support braces. Here's an explanation of the different types of knee supports:


    Knee Brace Guide: Best Braces for Knee Pain


    Non-issue over. On to the next topic of interest.

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    Default Re: NYSAC Wont Allow Sergio Martineze to wear a Knee Brace vs. Cotto.

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    It's a non-issue.


    The NYSAC reversed its ruling and now will allow Sergio to wear the knee supports.
    Like someone said, it had been the NYSAC's call in the first place, and not Cotto's. People need to get a grip.
    They're not the classic maximum support braces. Here's an explanation of the different types of knee supports:


    Knee Brace Guide: Best Braces for Knee Pain


    Non-issue over. On to the next topic of interest.
    Who woulda thunk it. They get pointed out but Cottos people and are brought up on tonights new 24/7 and resolved within 30 minutes...that had to be edited prior to the ruling(s)

    Now that's promotion Anything to get the sheep roaming...

    watching a lot of stuff, I just cannot see Cotto taking this but def cannot wait for the bell. Baaaaa

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