Somebody show me when Sergios knee fell apart

[cyclone]

The guy was on his friggin bike the entire fight. That is quite a feat for a one legged man. Of course it was not the same Sergio from 3 years ago. Neither was it the same Cotto. Not everyone is Juan Marquez. He simply never recovered from round 1.

No way does a guy use his legs like he did if he had a bad knee. He was so much bigger, stronger, faster that he could have just stood in the pocket right? Anyway if someone would be so kind to point out the round and time when he lost the limb?

FF TO 14 min for the ending of the chatter.

Cotto's punches made his knees go out.

Ass-whippings tend to do that.

Not once did I see Sergio buckle in pain or limping.

If GG did that to Sergio you'd hear no talk about knees...age..inactivity or any of that shit.


Martinez was always there for those shots...Cotto did his homework and followed his gameplan..that's boxing.

[Julius Rain]

I like both guys but Cotts left hook has return with a lot of bad intention. Cottos left hooks won the fight and not Martinez knees, thats bs.

[TitoFan]

Lots of good, logical, intelligent, objective minds on this forum. We all know who they are. Then there's the haters. It should be difficult for me to be objective. It was our local hero who did the dismantling last night. But I'm a Sergio fan also. I've always admired Sergio's career and his class. Let's just say that both Sergio and Miguel have more class in their little toe than scumbags like Cesar Chavez Jr. have in their entire being. Which is why it's easier to root for them than for Junior, who has made a living sponging off his father's name. But I'm getting off track.


It's obvious to me that Martinez isn't what he once was. But he prepared very hard for this fight. By his own accounts, and his corner's, he was more physically ready for this fight than for the Murray fight, for which he admittedly did not give himself enough time to heal from his leg issues. There were no excuses given before the Cotto fight..... so why bring them out now after the fight?? Had Cotto been soundly beaten, the haters would've been crowing about how Cotto should have never been in the same ring with a proven middleweight champion and natural 160-pounder.


I wanted Cotto to win, but I feared it would be Martinez, due to the size difference, Sergio's handspeed (Cotto showed some pretty good hand speed of his own last night), the fact that Sergio is a southpaw, and the fact that Sergio had been in the ring with some pretty good (and big) middleweights.


Cotto came prepared. And he came out like gangbusters... going on the offensive early and whacking Martinez with every punch in his arsenal. Sergio didn't think Cotto could hurt him, but found out the hard way that Cotto's own punching power was being overlooked.


It was a great fight... I'm happy... and Cotto has done a lot toward cementing his legacy. Martinez's own legacy is sealed, IMO, as he's had a wonderful career by his own rights. It might be time to hang up the gloves, though.


And in answer to IamInuit's thread question: Maybe at some point you could tell the leg wasn't the same. But it wasn't before Cotto had taken him apart in the very first round. No excuses were offered by Sergio. He knew he had gotten hit a lot harder than he figured he would get hit.

[VG_Addict]

Martinez is lucky he wasn't in there with a hard-punching natural MW like GGG or Quillin.

[IamInuit]

And in answer to IamInuit's thread question: Maybe at some point you could tell the leg wasn't the same. But it wasn't before Cotto had taken him apart in the very first round. No excuses were offered by Sergio. He knew he had gotten hit a lot harder than he figured he would get hit.

You see I have no issues with people saying he had a bad knee. FFS I said the same thing prior to the fight but anyone who thinks that is the reason he lost the fight is a blithering idiot and most likely never watched the fight and I don't relish saying such things.

“I got hit with the punch and I was cold and I never recovered after that,” Martinez admitted. “I tried to do my best and I want to apologize to the Argentine fans, and I want to thank all of the Puerto Rican fans for coming out.

“You've got to know when to win and you've got to know when to lose and I give all congratulations to Miguel Cotto.”

NOW if that injury to his knee was the cause then why is it not front page news with doctors reports, xrays and the whole nine yards? Pride? How is pride injured by a legit injury? I suppose he could have injured it again and we will see him in a cast next week but that most likely happened in rd 8.

[ross]

“The one thing he wanted me to tell all of you is that there were no excuses,” said Martinez’s promoter, Lou DiBella. “There was no problem with his knees. There was no problem with his hand. That he got caught in the first round by a great puncher, Miguel Cotto. He never recovered from that punch. … He was dizzy, basically, throughout the fight.

Team Martinez Has No Excuses, Just Credit For Cotto Loss - Boxing News

[Dark Lord Al]

Well done Cotto , and Martinez showed real class in losing , a shot in the arm for boxing for sure.
I think Cotto will lose to Floyd or GGG however let him enjoy this , he deserves it.

[Beanflicker]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

[cyclone]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

Prime Sergio got KTFO by Antonio Margarito....were his knees shot way back then??

Sergio was never all that.