Somebody show me when Sergios knee fell apart

[IamInuit]

And in answer to IamInuit's thread question: Maybe at some point you could tell the leg wasn't the same. But it wasn't before Cotto had taken him apart in the very first round. No excuses were offered by Sergio. He knew he had gotten hit a lot harder than he figured he would get hit.

You see I have no issues with people saying he had a bad knee. FFS I said the same thing prior to the fight but anyone who thinks that is the reason he lost the fight is a blithering idiot and most likely never watched the fight and I don't relish saying such things.

“I got hit with the punch and I was cold and I never recovered after that,” Martinez admitted. “I tried to do my best and I want to apologize to the Argentine fans, and I want to thank all of the Puerto Rican fans for coming out.

“You've got to know when to win and you've got to know when to lose and I give all congratulations to Miguel Cotto.”

NOW if that injury to his knee was the cause then why is it not front page news with doctors reports, xrays and the whole nine yards? Pride? How is pride injured by a legit injury? I suppose he could have injured it again and we will see him in a cast next week but that most likely happened in rd 8.

[ross]

“The one thing he wanted me to tell all of you is that there were no excuses,” said Martinez’s promoter, Lou DiBella. “There was no problem with his knees. There was no problem with his hand. That he got caught in the first round by a great puncher, Miguel Cotto. He never recovered from that punch. … He was dizzy, basically, throughout the fight.

Team Martinez Has No Excuses, Just Credit For Cotto Loss - Boxing News

[Dark Lord Al]

Well done Cotto , and Martinez showed real class in losing , a shot in the arm for boxing for sure.
I think Cotto will lose to Floyd or GGG however let him enjoy this , he deserves it.

[Beanflicker]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

[cyclone]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

Prime Sergio got KTFO by Antonio Margarito....were his knees shot way back then??

Sergio was never all that.

[Maravilla2012]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

Prime Sergio got KTFO by Antonio Margarito....were his knees shot way back then??

Sergio was never all that.

Sergio was not in he's Prime in 2000 when he fight Antonio in he's 14th fight. And he didn't get KTFO it was a TKO stoppage. You need to learn your boxing.

[cyclone]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

Prime Sergio got KTFO by Antonio Margarito....were his knees shot way back then??

Sergio was never all that.

Sergio was not in he's Prime in 2000 when he fight Antonio in he's 14th fight. And he didn't get KTFO it was a TKO stoppage. You need to learn your boxing.

You sure do like making excuses for Sergio.

Martinez was ALWAYS wide open for the punches Cotto had for him.

[Maravilla2012]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

Prime Sergio got KTFO by Antonio Margarito....were his knees shot way back then??

Sergio was never all that.

Sergio was not in he's Prime in 2000 when he fight Antonio in he's 14th fight. And he didn't get KTFO it was a TKO stoppage. You need to learn your boxing.

You sure do like making excuses for Sergio.

Martinez was ALWAYS wide open for the punches Cotto had for him.

Martinez issue wasn't his knees which has nothing to do with the way he couldnt get away from Cottos left hook. Almost every hook he threw landed and Martinez could do nothing to get away from it. Even if he was 100% Cotto would still be landing those hooks. He was aggressive when he had to be and patient when he had to be. Props to Cotto. Hope Martinez retires he had a late start and still manged to have a great career great fighter lots of heart for wanting to stay in it.

I dont make excuses not even for one of my favorite fighters im just pointing out that there's a difference from getting KTFO like Pacquiao, Williams or Hatton then getting stopped like Alvarado, Castillo or Martinez.

[beenKOed]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

Prime Sergio got KTFO by Antonio Margarito....were his knees shot way back then??

Sergio was never all that.

Sergio was not in he's Prime in 2000 when he fight Antonio in he's 14th fight. And he didn't get KTFO it was a TKO stoppage. You need to learn your boxing.

You sure do like making excuses for Sergio.

Martinez was ALWAYS wide open for the punches Cotto had for him.

Margarito is a known cheater and a poor example, the majority of his fights should be suspect, anyway you are talking about now not then.

[Beanflicker]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

Prime Sergio got KTFO by Antonio Margarito....were his knees shot way back then??

Sergio was never all that.

Prime Sergio was 2000? Three years into his career? Come on dude, don't pollute the thread with stupid.

[erics44]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

Prime Sergio got KTFO by Antonio Margarito....were his knees shot way back then??

Sergio was never all that.

Prime Sergio was 2000? Three years into his career? Come on dude, don't pollute the thread with stupid.

I actually kind of agree


I dunno about his prime being in 2000 but I don't think he was the lb4lb great that was being suggested


he was a very good champ yes


but during the period everyone had him as lb4lb top 3 his best wins were pavlik and Williams? both of who were second attempts? is that right?


I think boxing fans put fighters down too often but I don't think Sergio deserved the lofty status he had

[Beanflicker]

Well Sergio couldn't get fights for most of his career while he was in his physical prime because he was a slick southpaw mover/counter puncher. When he finally started getting shots, he got robbed twice in a row vs Cintron and Williams, and went on a tear and whipped the undisputed #1 MW in Pavlik, which is Pavlik's only loss at MW.

Now I agree that Martinez maybe was overrated by some, as he never was on the skill level of a Floyd Mayweather or Andre Ward and did have his share of flaws, but Sergio was a magnificent boxing talent for his relatively short time at the top. He was a top p4p guy in the sport without question.

[beenKOed]

It's not a matter of his knee completely giving out on him, it's a matter of his knees being beaten up and old and him not having the mobility and spring that he did, say, 4 years ago. No one's saying that he was a one-legged gimp out there, but he was a far cry from prime Sergio. And this didn't happen just in this fight, we've seen a sharp decline in him over the last few years.

Prime Sergio got KTFO by Antonio Margarito....were his knees shot way back then??

Sergio was never all that.

He was sure as fuck, all that, when he planked Paul Williams!