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Re: Cotto is not a MW Champ
Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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C'mon now stumpy...Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.
Pacman made a career out of picking on handicapped fighters.
At least Martinez had a LICENSE..
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How he got that license is questionable though. Even before the KD's Martinez was badly off. I haven't seen such a decline since Ali. At least fighters like Toney had the basics to hide and delay the decline. With Martinez it was decline of the legs and thus no decent punches nor combos at any stage. It isn't because Cotto is that good.C'mon now stumpy...Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.
Pacman made a career out of picking on handicapped fighters.
At least Martinez had a LICENSE..
Cotto is good though, but not that good. If you are asked to beat a washed up old man you will, but it isn't a best win by any shot.
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I just watched the fight today.
A fan loses out so much when he already knows who's gonna win.
Anyway, completely 1-sided affair.
Cotto had such poise, so well-composed, calmly sticking to the gameplan which was working. Fought with passion and energy, but cool-headed. Not wild.
Martinez was just kind of floundering around with no answers as to what to do when faced with superior technical skills.
And he's lost his punch resistance.
When a guy's style is dependent on speed and athleticism, but can't really box and hasn't learned the technical aspects, once some of that speed goes, well, it's too late to learn how to box correctly then. Too old to learn now.
There's been far worse beatings where the fight wasn't stopped.
Still, dude was down 3 times in rd 1; that's tremendous unseen damage in his brain took place there. You don't want to play around with that. Good stoppage.Each rd, Martinez was taking more punishment than the rd before. He never recovered from the 1st rd damage.
Martinez was a Good Champion.
On Saturday night, it was hard to believe this was the same guy that cold-konked Paul Williams cold and beat up Pavlik not too long ago.
Mediocre ref.
This was Cotto's shining moment.
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you had no complaints when Hatton took on Tszyu or Castillo or when Calzaghe finally decided to take on Jones, take that shit somewhere else budHow he got that license is questionable though. Even before the KD's Martinez was badly off. I haven't seen such a decline since Ali. At least fighters like Toney had the basics to hide and delay the decline. With Martinez it was decline of the legs and thus no decent punches nor combos at any stage. It isn't because Cotto is that good.C'mon now stumpy...Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.
Pacman made a career out of picking on handicapped fighters.
At least Martinez had a LICENSE..
Cotto is good though, but not that good. If you are asked to beat a washed up old man you will, but it isn't a best win by any shot.
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You boy Pacman beat on fighters in worse shape than Sergio...then he drained them.How he got that license is questionable though. Even before the KD's Martinez was badly off. I haven't seen such a decline since Ali. At least fighters like Toney had the basics to hide and delay the decline. With Martinez it was decline of the legs and thus no decent punches nor combos at any stage. It isn't because Cotto is that good.C'mon now stumpy...Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.
Pacman made a career out of picking on handicapped fighters.
At least Martinez had a LICENSE..
Cotto is good though, but not that good. If you are asked to beat a washed up old man you will, but it isn't a best win by any shot.
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How does this reflect poorly on Cotto?Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.
Did Cotto force "handicapped" Martinez to fight him? I'm pretty sure Martinez chose to be there. I saw the interviews and shows leading up to the fight where Martinez says he's 100% ready and healthy. I saw his trainers and coaches all say he's ready for the fight and that he would win the fight easy. That he was much better than Cotto and Roach.
So how is it Cotto's fault if Martinez misrepresented himself? If Martinez and his trainers and his coaches and his promoter all lied and mislead people into believing he was healthy when he was in fact "handicapped". Why would you say "fair play to Martinez" but "shame on Cotto"?!?!
How stupid are some of you?
Could someone explain how Cotto is to blame for Martinez poor decision making?
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1 thing I have always respected about you was that you are consistent in your arguments, whether it be boxing or politics. Much respect.Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.
The hypocrites here are hailing this as some massive achievement by Cotto by fighting at a catchweight for a title, but hailed other fighters as cherry picking cowards for doing the same thing. No bullshit hypocrisy from you. Much respect.
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he didn't take Martinez on at a weight he hadn't fought in in ten years where he was drained so bad he needed to be re hydrated with an IV then go on to hail it as one of his greatest wins =/ apples and oranges buddy1 thing I have always respected about you was that you are consistent in your arguments, whether it be boxing or politics. Much respect.Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.
The hypocrites here are hailing this as some massive achievement by Cotto by fighting at a catchweight for a title, but hailed other fighters as cherry picking cowards for doing the same thing. No bullshit hypocrisy from you. Much respect.
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keep schooling them..he didn't take Martinez on at a weight he hadn't fought in in ten years where he was drained so bad he needed to be re hydrated with an IV then go on to hail it as one of his greatest wins =/ apples and oranges buddy1 thing I have always respected about you was that you are consistent in your arguments, whether it be boxing or politics. Much respect.Well said. Picking on a handicapped man is usually resented in society, but in boxing it somehow becomes a defining moment. What utter tosh. From round 1 we saw the situation and fair play to Martinez on going that long, but shame on Cotto, who clearly knew the deal. He boxed well etc, but face a MW and see what happens.
The hypocrites here are hailing this as some massive achievement by Cotto by fighting at a catchweight for a title, but hailed other fighters as cherry picking cowards for doing the same thing. No bullshit hypocrisy from you. Much respect.
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