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    Default Re: Why is Steve Collins not in the International Boxing Hall of Fame?

    After losing to the “Body Snatcher,” he won 5 straight before dropping a razor thin and controversial MD to Reggie Johnson (32-2-1) and a close UD to Sumbu Kalambay, 55-5-1, (a masterful defensive fighter and counter-puncher)- both in 1992. He rebounded by winning the WBA Penta-Continental Middleweight Title in 1993 by knocking out South African Gerhard Botes.

    Finally, after relocating to England from Boston, Steve won the WBO Middleweight Title with a KO over the very capable Chris Pyatt (42-3) in 1994. He then would close out his career as he continued the aforementioned streak of wins. Incredibly during this run, he fought and beat flamboyant Chris Eubank twice in succession in 1995. Both fights were close and both were thrillers in front of roaring Irish fans. Eubank was 41-0-2 coming into their first fight.

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    Default Re: Why is Steve Collins not in the International Boxing Hall of Fame?

    @holmcall stop copy and pasting crap. Pyatt was poor not capable at world level. The rest should read he got beat by the best fighters in the US and came to UK to try his luck. He got loads of luck and showed some heart and determination to make some money before retiring because Joe Calzaghe was going to tear him apart.
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    Default Re: Why is Steve Collins not in the International Boxing Hall of Fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    @holmcall stop copy and pasting crap. Pyatt was poor not capable at world level. The rest should read he got beat by the best fighters in the US and came to UK to try his luck. He got loads of luck and showed some heart and determination to make some money before retiring because Joe Calzaghe was going to tear him apart.

    I dont think he feared Joe. It was simply time for him to hang them up. Look there are better fighters then him in the Hall and there are worse. The only thing consistent about the place is its inconsistency.
    Based on observation, experience and repeatability Collins qualifies. If it was a Hall based on a singular interpretation of perfection then it might have 25 members.

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    Default Re: Why is Steve Collins not in the International Boxing Hall of Fame?

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    @holmcall stop copy and pasting crap. Pyatt was poor not capable at world level. The rest should read he got beat by the best fighters in the US and came to UK to try his luck. He got loads of luck and showed some heart and determination to make some money before retiring because Joe Calzaghe was going to tear him apart.

    I dont think he feared Joe. It was simply time for him to hang them up. Look there are better fighters then him in the Hall and there are worse. The only thing consistent about the place is its inconsistency.
    Based on observation, experience and repeatability Collins qualifies. If it was a Hall based on a singular interpretation of perfection then it might have 0 members.

    This is more accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
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    @holmcall stop copy and pasting crap. Pyatt was poor not capable at world level. The rest should read he got beat by the best fighters in the US and came to UK to try his luck. He got loads of luck and showed some heart and determination to make some money before retiring because Joe Calzaghe was going to tear him apart.

    I dont think he feared Joe. It was simply time for him to hang them up. Look there are better fighters then him in the Hall and there are worse. The only thing consistent about the place is its inconsistency.
    Based on observation, experience and repeatability Collins qualifies. If it was a Hall based on a singular interpretation of perfection then it might have 0 members.

    This is more accurate.

    lol well at least you caught the drift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    @holmcall stop copy and pasting crap. Pyatt was poor not capable at world level. The rest should read he got beat by the best fighters in the US and came to UK to try his luck. He got loads of luck and showed some heart and determination to make some money before retiring because Joe Calzaghe was going to tear him apart.



    WTF!!!!!!!! I'm copying from an article I wrote only yesterday. Want the link. heh heh.

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    Default Re: Why is Steve Collins not in the International Boxing Hall of Fame?

    "He stopped Nigel Benn two times in a row—both times in Manchester. Benn was 42-3-1 at the time of the first duke. While admittedly, both Eubank and Benn were past their prime, what the Celtic Warrior accomplished has to be considered a remarkable feat given the stature of those two legendary British warriors and the especially the fact Collins was defending his crown.

    "Collins, the quintessential professional, worked in Scotland, Ireland, Wales, England, Northern Ireland, France, Italy, Atlantic City, Las Vegas, the Meadowlands Arena in New Jersey and, of course, in and around the Boston area. More to the point, he was an extremely tough, tenacious, and skilled fighter who took on the very best. Hopefully, the International Boxing Hall of Fame will no longer overlook this great warrior. In fact, one has to wonder why Eubank and Benn have been ignored by the Hall as well."

    TAKEN IN PART FROM AN ARTICLE WRITTEN BY holmcall on June 13, 2014.
    Last edited by holmcall; 06-15-2014 at 12:28 AM.

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    Default Re: Why is Steve Collins not in the International Boxing Hall of Fame?

    Collins was decent enough and competed with some of the best we had. I didn't see the Johnson fight all that close. Honestly the qualifications and merits of the Hall seem as blurry and subjective as 'p4p' rankings. I might be biased though as the Benn rematch had to one of the saddest moments I've seen in the ring as a fan, but hey.

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    Default Re: Why is Steve Collins not in the International Boxing Hall of Fame?

    For the sake of argument I'm taking a shot at Leonard.

    Knew that Duran was whaling so he made the immediate rematch in 6 months.
    Retired and then 3 years later got gloves, ring size and a rounds count against Hagler.
    Gets the Wbc to invent a title and then he challenges Lalonde for his 175 title if Donny makes 168.
    Fights Hearns after Tommy was begging for a rematch for close to 10 years and scams a draw.


    I'm sick and tired of the daily shitting on people that walk the walk. I can cut down anyone. Even calling down guys like Bellew is getting on my nerves. These guys go all in for their families while the elite skip down the yellow-brick road.

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