Boxing Media split on the Provodnikov-Algieri fight

[IamInuit]

Thank you for being cordial. However:

1. I do have the balls to get in the ring, have done so for the past 7 years and faced very aggressive short powerhouses like Provodnikov, though obviously not nearly at his level. I boxed them, occasionally brawled them and hit them. Hard.

2. Please do not pretend its a "sign of the times" that such a free swinging slugger is popular. Over a half a century ago, Jake Lamotta was popular and he beat the man in your avatar and your namesake.

3. There is most assuredly such a thing as being a runner. Floyd Mayweather is a boxer. Cory Spinks was a runner. Some fools became so deluded with his "style" they believed he actually "beat" Jermain Taylor. Chris Algeri is a runner.

You know your boxing history well. Sluggers and all out action fighters have long been popular since the conception of the sport. There was a reason why Jack Dempsey was the most popular athlete in the world at 1 time and even more famous than Babe Ruth during the roaring 20s. Mike Tyson under the D'amato trainers during the 80s, along with Hagler and Duran were also wildly popular because of their all action style. None of them were all 1 dimensional sluggers, but they were all out action fighters. It's laughable that someone suggested that it's the sign of the times and the people that the general public and many boxing fans like action fighters, all out brawlers, as something wrong with the current sport. As if liking action fighters means you're not a "real fan."

Here's a piece of an Time Magazine article that talks about Rocky Graziano and his popularity. It's dated Jan. 1946. In fact, he had little boxing skills, sort of like Provodnikov today, but wildly popular. I guess it must have been the sign of the times in January of 1946 that Graziano was so popular too, eh? And I'm not even going to get into how wildly popular a limited slugger like Rocky Marciano was in his heyday.

Sport: The Making of Rocky - TIME

Boxing's biggest current attraction is a roughneck middleweight from Manhattan's tough Mulberry Street. Rocco ("Rocky") Graziano packed them in at Madison Square Garden last week for what fans thought would be his sixth straight knockout, a new Garden record. He fooled himself and the fans by winning on points from ex-Sailor Sonny Home.
As a boxer, Rocky Graziano is a joke, but he has the top two requisites to ring fame & fortune — a paralyzing punch, an iron jaw. His 155 lbs. ace mounted on a sturdy pair of legs that would never per form fancy ring steps. He mauls in...

Very well put. Liking fighters who come to FIGHT is not a new age concept.

Nor was it what I meant to imply. I said as much in my previous post: "I like a fighter who comes forward as much as the next man - assuming that it is in some way educated, e.g. Cotto against Martinez most recently." I would say that Dempsey, Tyson and others who have been mentioned are all in a league so far removed from that of Provodnikov in terms of skill that it hardly warrants comparison. I would also say that it seems ironic the posters jumping on the bandwagon to prove a point which was never in contention by making irrelevant comparisons to fighters who could actually do more than just plod forward seem also to want to imply that anyone who doesn't stand in front of his opponent and trade with him for the majority of the fight is a 'runner'. I remember now why I post so little. This was hardly a focal point of my argument, and now the thread has gone off on one of those redundant tangents that so often kill these kinds of discussions.

Agree with much of what you say(boxing wise) ie topic. Boxing may still like its blankets but the blankets of today are not made the same. The object of the game is to hit and not get hit and not get hit and try to hit back.
Boxing is actually devolving. Soon it will be a competition for grappling. The pugilists of the past were both appreciated and sought after. The pugilists of today dont fit the ad world. Respect the approach @SRR and recognize it. You know your stuff. I've talked to you before.

[Vendettos]

Algiers won the fight. It was one of the clearest victories I've seen for a while.

The only reason Prov had any shout was round one.

He got beat by a guy with one eye and comfortably.

It depressed me that people score Prov ahead.

[Andre]

If theres a rematch I think Algieri will win it even more defined next time,he learn't as he went, he wont fall for basic mistakes getting caught square early again and will probably if he's smart start much warmer than he did this time around. He should also now know how to get into Provs openings easier next time too cause Prov is very open and over committed so with two eyes and touch more fitness he should start and finish just as strong.
Also in the minds of many Algieri wont be expected to 'take the belt off the champ', next time as the rolls will be reversed, so people will be easier on him if the scores are close.
In this fight I thought Algieri slowed down a lot in the last two rounds (the championship rounds).
I really want to see this last fight again, if any of you can upload it, or if you have a link that would be great.