are we forgetting what the point of boxing is?

[erics44]

i feel like i have read on this board too many times about fighters being boring and that they deserve to lose because they arent crowd pleasing fighters. are we forgetting that it doesnt matter how you win as long as you win? and this thread is for supposed boxing fans, not casual fans. i understand that casual fans wont watch a boring fighter even if they are really good (for the most part) but most boxing fans will watch a great fighter no matter what (or at least they should).

a boring fighter may bring in less money to fights and less interest but i dont know how we as boxing fans cant just appreciate talented fighters. for example, the term "running" in boxing is ridiculous unless the fighter is actually just trying to survive. usually when people use the term "running," it means that they stayed back and jabbed and prevented any sort of exchanges. that isnt running, its called being effective. just like when people said that de la hoya ran the second half of the tito fight. he didnt run, he just stayed back and effectively outboxed tito.

i honestly dont care how boring a fighter is. i understand that the whole point of sports is winning. i mean honestly, what others sports matter that much on your style of play? in every other sport, winners will always get respect no matter what. in boxing, winners wont get respect if you thought they were boring. that is just ridiculous.

that is my rant.

its probably you who is missing the point, boxing is entertainment


the rules are there and adapted to try and make it more entertaining


other sports adapt, football for example is constantly adapting the rules to try to create more goals. other sports are the same, cricket, rugby, etc etc etc



I always hear that judges tend to favour the come forward more aggressive fighter, whether they do or not is another question, they should tho theres no question about that because that is more entertaining


andre ward is a fantastic fighter, very hard to beat, he makes a relatively small amount of money, and rightly so, because the very good and effective style he has created is hard to watch

[YIDDLE]

I think the culture change that has occurred in the past decades has created a "I want it now " way of thinking and this has crossed into sports and other forms of entertainment but professional boxing is still a sport and some of the skills that were appreciated in years passed are no longer viewed in way and with a more modern audience the subtle skill of say a benny valgar would certainly not be appreciated

[erics44]

I think the culture change that has occurred in the past decades has created a "I want it now " way of thinking and this has crossed into sports and other forms of entertainment but professional boxing is still a sport and some of the skills that were appreciated in years passed are no longer viewed in way and with a more modern audience the subtle skill of say a benny valgar would certainly not be appreciated

utter bollox


always been the same


people love a fight and fighters that fight make more money

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

The point of boxing is to promote an event that will draw a crowd and make money.

[goti71]

It's the modern mainstream money-making culture.

People have always craved for intense entertainment (and pro boxing is just that, of course) but the thing is that audiences have become too numerous and you can't expect so many people to be very demanding on subtlety.

The same thing for music and films; 30 years ago it was the innovative and/or quality stuff that hit the mainstream; now the mainstream is packed with a mish-mash of rubbish year after year. No room for "weird" music like The Doors or David Bowie on Top of the Pops.

It all benefits the more mediocre artists whilst the good ones get the scraps.

[powerpuncher]

It's the modern mainstream money-making culture.

People have always craved for intense entertainment (and pro boxing is just that, of course) but the thing is that audiences have become too numerous and you can't expect so many people to be very demanding on subtlety.

The same thing for music and films; 30 years ago it was the innovative and/or quality stuff that hit the mainstream; now the mainstream is packed with a mish-mash of rubbish year after year. No room for "weird" music like The Doors or David Bowie on Top of the Pops.

It all benefits the more mediocre artists whilst the good ones get the scraps.

agreed. the thing that i have learned is that money ruins everything. everything turns into making money instead of being the best. like you said, most blockbuster movies are actually very good. they have a lot of explosions and small minded people are entertained by that rather than by a movie which makes you think.

same with boxing i guess. small minded people cant enjoy a master boxing but can enjoy a brawl which doesnt take any brain power to comprehend.

[erics44]

It's the modern mainstream money-making culture.

People have always craved for intense entertainment (and pro boxing is just that, of course) but the thing is that audiences have become too numerous and you can't expect so many people to be very demanding on subtlety.

The same thing for music and films; 30 years ago it was the innovative and/or quality stuff that hit the mainstream; now the mainstream is packed with a mish-mash of rubbish year after year. No room for "weird" music like The Doors or David Bowie on Top of the Pops.

It all benefits the more mediocre artists whilst the good ones get the scraps.

ha


this thread need to be renamed


"talk utter bollox and mention the good old days"

[goti71]

It's the modern mainstream money-making culture.

People have always craved for intense entertainment (and pro boxing is just that, of course) but the thing is that audiences have become too numerous and you can't expect so many people to be very demanding on subtlety.

The same thing for music and films; 30 years ago it was the innovative and/or quality stuff that hit the mainstream; now the mainstream is packed with a mish-mash of rubbish year after year. No room for "weird" music like The Doors or David Bowie on Top of the Pops.

It all benefits the more mediocre artists whilst the good ones get the scraps.

ha


this thread need to be renamed


"talk utter bollox and mention the good old days"

Not bollocks at all. Sadly it's just the way it is with mainstream; the wider the public, the more it can or has to be dumbed down to make cash.

And I don't give a sod about the good old days.

[YIDDLE]

It's the modern mainstream money-making culture.

People have always craved for intense entertainment (and pro boxing is just that, of course) but the thing is that audiences have become too numerous and you can't expect so many people to be very demanding on subtlety.

The same thing for music and films; 30 years ago it was the innovative and/or quality stuff that hit the mainstream; now the mainstream is packed with a mish-mash of rubbish year after year. No room for "weird" music like The Doors or David Bowie on Top of the Pops.

It all benefits the more mediocre artists whilst the good ones get the scraps.

ha


this thread need to be renamed


"talk utter bollox and mention the good old days"

you should be renamed the ugly fucker with a big mouth