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    The West went in and toppled a government they did not like on the pretext that there was WMD. They have a duty to fix their mess.
    I agree with you to an extent Master. We lost almost five thousand young Americans and God knows how many Iraqis killed. We have a responsibility to this country, it's just the Middle East seems to be a place no one has success. Actually, I blame the whole thing on Churchill and Laurence of Arabia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The West went in and toppled a government they did not like on the pretext that there was WMD. They have a duty to fix their mess.
    I agree with you to an extent Master. We lost almost five thousand young Americans and God knows how many Iraqis killed. We have a responsibility to this country, it's just the Middle East seems to be a place no one has success. Actually, I blame the whole thing on Churchill and Laurence of Arabia.
    You could go further and blame the crusades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    The West went in and toppled a government they did not like on the pretext that there was WMD. They have a duty to fix their mess.
    I agree with you to an extent Master. We lost almost five thousand young Americans and God knows how many Iraqis killed. We have a responsibility to this country, it's just the Middle East seems to be a place no one has success. Actually, I blame the whole thing on Churchill and Laurence of Arabia.
    You could go further and blame the crusades.
    If the crusaders had been able to hold the fort, the Middle East probably would be a stable place today

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    Most bad government has grown out of too much government. Thomas Jefferson

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    The West went in and toppled a government they did not like on the pretext that there was WMD. They have a duty to fix their mess.
    I agree with you to an extent Master. We lost almost five thousand young Americans and God knows how many Iraqis killed. We have a responsibility to this country, it's just the Middle East seems to be a place no one has success. Actually, I blame the whole thing on Churchill and Laurence of Arabia.
    You could go further and blame the crusades.
    If the crusaders had been able to hold the fort, the Middle East probably would be a stable place today
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    Should have stayed the fuck out of it in the first place. All that money invested in training their police force and soldiers, and when the shit hit the fan those guys couldn't throw their uniforms off and run any faster.

    They'd be better off still under daddy Saddam's rule.

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    Peasant Muslims killing each other , in the name of Allah ?

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    You know what went wrong in Iraq? It's the same thing that's gone wrong in any American military operation since World War II.

    We're not in wars to WIN anymore....need proof?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7scgN-37E

    Whether we're dealing with nation states or not the object of war is to humble your opponent and beat them into submission....that is THE 1 GOAL of war. And if we're not in wars to win them then we damn sure shouldn't fight them.


    W's guys didn't have the right gameplan for holding Iraq, Obama just didn't want to be bothered with either war and here's where we are now...the Democrats were focused on failure from the get go (FACT) and well I hope they are happy with what has occurred. People will always go back to the WMD's as being a red herring for the war in Iraq but at the end of the day when you go to war rightly or wrongly you need to go to WIN. There were plenty of other reasons to go to war with Iraq besides the WMDs and I've explained those reasons but again you go to war to WIN not to make friends.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_VHEts3fqk

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    You know what went wrong in Iraq? It's the same thing that's gone wrong in any American military operation since World War II.

    We're not in wars to WIN anymore....need proof?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7scgN-37E

    Whether we're dealing with nation states or not the object of war is to humble your opponent and beat them into submission....that is THE 1 GOAL of war. And if we're not in wars to win them then we damn sure shouldn't fight them.


    W's guys didn't have the right gameplan for holding Iraq, Obama just didn't want to be bothered with either war and here's where we are now...the Democrats were focused on failure from the get go (FACT) and well I hope they are happy with what has occurred. People will always go back to the WMD's as being a red herring for the war in Iraq but at the end of the day when you go to war rightly or wrongly you need to go to WIN. There were plenty of other reasons to go to war with Iraq besides the WMDs and I've explained those reasons but again you go to war to WIN not to make friends.


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    Like Kurtz said, EXTERMINATE ALL THE BRUTES.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    You know what went wrong in Iraq? It's the same thing that's gone wrong in any American military operation since World War II.

    We're not in wars to WIN anymore....need proof?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk7scgN-37E

    Whether we're dealing with nation states or not the object of war is to humble your opponent and beat them into submission....that is THE 1 GOAL of war. And if we're not in wars to win them then we damn sure shouldn't fight them.


    W's guys didn't have the right gameplan for holding Iraq, Obama just didn't want to be bothered with either war and here's where we are now...the Democrats were focused on failure from the get go (FACT) and well I hope they are happy with what has occurred. People will always go back to the WMD's as being a red herring for the war in Iraq but at the end of the day when you go to war rightly or wrongly you need to go to WIN. There were plenty of other reasons to go to war with Iraq besides the WMDs and I've explained those reasons but again you go to war to WIN not to make friends.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_VHEts3fqk
    So you out-Saddam Saddam and slaughter millions of people in order to bring any survivors freedom?

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