are we forgetting what the point of boxing is?

[erics44]

It's the modern mainstream money-making culture.

People have always craved for intense entertainment (and pro boxing is just that, of course) but the thing is that audiences have become too numerous and you can't expect so many people to be very demanding on subtlety.

The same thing for music and films; 30 years ago it was the innovative and/or quality stuff that hit the mainstream; now the mainstream is packed with a mish-mash of rubbish year after year. No room for "weird" music like The Doors or David Bowie on Top of the Pops.

It all benefits the more mediocre artists whilst the good ones get the scraps.

ha


this thread need to be renamed


"talk utter bollox and mention the good old days"

Not bollocks at all. Sadly it's just the way it is with mainstream; the wider the public, the more it can or has to be dumbed down to make cash.

And I don't give a sod about the good old days.

boxing (and sport in general) is played at a much higher level nowadays than ever before


the "sluggers" of today would KO the finest slickest boxers of yesteryear with in a few rounds


boxing is at a peak with skill, fitness, athleticism etc


the public are better educated, the world demands better athletes and that's what it has


so unfortunately matey, I completely disagree with what you are saying, I don't really think you have thought it through

A bit off-topic that (I've just re-read my post and I don't know where I said boxing was better in the good old days) but "Sluggers" of today would KO the slickest of yesteryear? I don't know. I didn't mention anything to imply that.


As for the topic, people are more educated, yes, but then why do a whole load of them say slick boxing is "running"? Why do they boo at the fights of Rigondeaux, Lara, Ward? They actually make up a big percentage of the PPV and ticket buyers, as you know.

I drew a parallel with the music and film industry not because I see the past with rose-tinted glasses but to make a point that people seem to accept lower standards in entertainment in general. And boxing gets a touch of this tendency too.*

*Edit: that was my point.

films are better now than ever before, what are you on about?

[goti71]

It's the modern mainstream money-making culture.

People have always craved for intense entertainment (and pro boxing is just that, of course) but the thing is that audiences have become too numerous and you can't expect so many people to be very demanding on subtlety.

The same thing for music and films; 30 years ago it was the innovative and/or quality stuff that hit the mainstream; now the mainstream is packed with a mish-mash of rubbish year after year. No room for "weird" music like The Doors or David Bowie on Top of the Pops.

It all benefits the more mediocre artists whilst the good ones get the scraps.

ha


this thread need to be renamed


"talk utter bollox and mention the good old days"

Not bollocks at all. Sadly it's just the way it is with mainstream; the wider the public, the more it can or has to be dumbed down to make cash.

And I don't give a sod about the good old days.

boxing (and sport in general) is played at a much higher level nowadays than ever before


the "sluggers" of today would KO the finest slickest boxers of yesteryear with in a few rounds


boxing is at a peak with skill, fitness, athleticism etc


the public are better educated, the world demands better athletes and that's what it has


so unfortunately matey, I completely disagree with what you are saying, I don't really think you have thought it through

A bit off-topic that (I've just re-read my post and I don't know where I said boxing was better in the good old days) but "Sluggers" of today would KO the slickest of yesteryear? I don't know. I didn't mention anything to imply that.


As for the topic, people are more educated, yes, but then why do a whole load of them say slick boxing is "running"? Why do they boo at the fights of Rigondeaux, Lara, Ward? They actually make up a big percentage of the PPV and ticket buyers, as you know.

I drew a parallel with the music and film industry not because I see the past with rose-tinted glasses but to make a point that people seem to accept lower standards in entertainment in general. And boxing gets a touch of this tendency too.*

*Edit: that was my point.

films are better now than ever before, what are you on about?

Yes if your mental age is 14.

[erics44]

It's the modern mainstream money-making culture.

People have always craved for intense entertainment (and pro boxing is just that, of course) but the thing is that audiences have become too numerous and you can't expect so many people to be very demanding on subtlety.

The same thing for music and films; 30 years ago it was the innovative and/or quality stuff that hit the mainstream; now the mainstream is packed with a mish-mash of rubbish year after year. No room for "weird" music like The Doors or David Bowie on Top of the Pops.

It all benefits the more mediocre artists whilst the good ones get the scraps.

ha


this thread need to be renamed


"talk utter bollox and mention the good old days"

Not bollocks at all. Sadly it's just the way it is with mainstream; the wider the public, the more it can or has to be dumbed down to make cash.

And I don't give a sod about the good old days.

boxing (and sport in general) is played at a much higher level nowadays than ever before


the "sluggers" of today would KO the finest slickest boxers of yesteryear with in a few rounds


boxing is at a peak with skill, fitness, athleticism etc


the public are better educated, the world demands better athletes and that's what it has


so unfortunately matey, I completely disagree with what you are saying, I don't really think you have thought it through

A bit off-topic that (I've just re-read my post and I don't know where I said boxing was better in the good old days) but "Sluggers" of today would KO the slickest of yesteryear? I don't know. I didn't mention anything to imply that.


As for the topic, people are more educated, yes, but then why do a whole load of them say slick boxing is "running"? Why do they boo at the fights of Rigondeaux, Lara, Ward? They actually make up a big percentage of the PPV and ticket buyers, as you know.

I drew a parallel with the music and film industry not because I see the past with rose-tinted glasses but to make a point that people seem to accept lower standards in entertainment in general. And boxing gets a touch of this tendency too.*

*Edit: that was my point.

films are better now than ever before, what are you on about?

Yes if your mental age is 14.

what films are you watching?