Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli View Post
Wars are not winnable in a conventional literal way now. There is no 1+1=2 cookie cutter resolution. We knew in the Persian Gulf, Somalia and when the towers fell this was not out Grand daddy's war. Hell, we learned that in Vietnam but refused to learn and adapt during.

Obama is speaking now and I have no idea what the fook he is saying. Double talk, rainbows & unicorns and walking on water. Bush did the exact same thing. So we're sending 300 "Military non combat advisors" to train Iraq forces...again. Third times the charm eh Walk in and pat them on the back and give them an Atta' boy speech. All the while waiting for one of them to turn their weapon on them. Is this Bizarro world.

What a fuckin mess man. There really is no answer, at least not for us to offer at this stage.
There is zero difference between Obama and Bush on Iraq. Bush spent the years after Maliki took power trying to get him to make a deal with the Sunnis and trying to get rid of him when he refused to. Obama is doing the exact same thing. Now Obama is, according to the NYT, thinking about installing Ahmad Chalabi as prez. That America would ignore an actual democratic election result and boot the winner out in favour of their guy is not anything new. That Obama would try and install the guy Bush originally wanted to run Iraq even when it became comically obvious that he had no chance of being acceptable is unbelievable. It's like American foreign policy is frozen in amber and can't ever alter.

Chalabi it turned out was convicted of embezzling tens of millions from a bank in Jordan that he was running. So he's a dodgy banker. One of these guys.




But that's not the major reason he's a bad guy. It turns out he was also an Iranian agent feeding Dick Cheney and his people bullshit about Saddam so that America had the bs intel they needed to invade Iraq. Iran always knew they'd end up running Iraq if America invaded. So now America is making a second attempt to install an Iranian agent as head of Iraq to replace the, uh, Iranian agent that won the recent election but that America doesn't like. Fucking unbelievable.