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    Default Re: Floyd's resume.

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    I'm not shitting on the win, just stating that for someone who claims to be the best ever his record is lacking when he came back he never fought the best fighter in his division (Pacquiao) OK so we give him another warm-up fight because he fought Mosley next, but then followed with Ortiz, Cotto and Guerrero

    What everyone is saying that Floyd is a fantastic fighter but he needed certain fights to make him an all time great
    He is an all time great but he is lacking the fights to make himself the greatest or near the greatest.
    I don't consider him an all time great
    Well your just a hater then because he clearly is
    Label me what you like son I always thought you were better than that but Floyd is CLEARLY not an all time great or we wouldn't be having this debate
    Name 10 ATGs

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    Default Re: Floyd's resume.

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    I'm not shitting on the win, just stating that for someone who claims to be the best ever his record is lacking when he came back he never fought the best fighter in his division (Pacquiao) OK so we give him another warm-up fight because he fought Mosley next, but then followed with Ortiz, Cotto and Guerrero

    What everyone is saying that Floyd is a fantastic fighter but he needed certain fights to make him an all time great
    He is an all time great but he is lacking the fights to make himself the greatest or near the greatest.
    I don't consider him an all time great
    Well your just a hater then because he clearly is
    Label me what you like son I always thought you were better than that but Floyd is CLEARLY not an all time great or we wouldn't be having this debate
    Name 10 ATGs
    In no particular order:

    Robinson
    Armstrong
    Ali
    Greb
    Pep
    J. Wild
    Duran
    J. Johnson
    J. Louis
    B. Leonard
    B. Ross

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    Default Re: Floyd's resume.

    Quote Originally Posted by La Cucaracha View Post
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    I'm not shitting on the win, just stating that for someone who claims to be the best ever his record is lacking when he came back he never fought the best fighter in his division (Pacquiao) OK so we give him another warm-up fight because he fought Mosley next, but then followed with Ortiz, Cotto and Guerrero

    What everyone is saying that Floyd is a fantastic fighter but he needed certain fights to make him an all time great
    He is an all time great but he is lacking the fights to make himself the greatest or near the greatest.
    I don't consider him an all time great
    Well your just a hater then because he clearly is
    Label me what you like son I always thought you were better than that but Floyd is CLEARLY not an all time great or we wouldn't be having this debate
    Name 10 ATGs
    In no particular order:

    Robinson
    Armstrong
    Ali
    Greb
    Pep
    J. Wild
    Duran
    J. Johnson
    J. Louis
    B. Leonard
    B. Ross

    Pep lost to a lot of fighters that were not as good as Floyds opposition. I also dont like to include fighters with Little to no footage so I would have Harry Greb on an ATG list, although he may very well deserve to be. Joe Louis fought a lot of bums and the only difference between him and floyd is fight numbers. Ray Robinson is the greatest ever in my opinion but I could not see Floyd losing to Jake La Motta. Johnson again as no footage I cant say but his record is nothing impressive. It would appear that you consider fighters from nowadays to be shit and are just including champions of old.

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    Default Re: Floyd's resume.

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    I'm not shitting on the win, just stating that for someone who claims to be the best ever his record is lacking when he came back he never fought the best fighter in his division (Pacquiao) OK so we give him another warm-up fight because he fought Mosley next, but then followed with Ortiz, Cotto and Guerrero

    What everyone is saying that Floyd is a fantastic fighter but he needed certain fights to make him an all time great
    He is an all time great but he is lacking the fights to make himself the greatest or near the greatest.
    I don't consider him an all time great
    Well your just a hater then because he clearly is
    Label me what you like son I always thought you were better than that but Floyd is CLEARLY not an all time great or we wouldn't be having this debate
    Name 10 ATGs
    In no particular order:

    Robinson
    Armstrong
    Ali
    Greb
    Pep
    J. Wild
    Duran
    J. Johnson
    J. Louis
    B. Leonard
    B. Ross

    Pep lost to a lot of fighters that were not as good as Floyds opposition. I also dont like to include fighters with Little to no footage so I would have Harry Greb on an ATG list, although he may very well deserve to be. Joe Louis fought a lot of bums and the only difference between him and floyd is fight numbers. Ray Robinson is the greatest ever in my opinion but I could not see Floyd losing to Jake La Motta. Johnson again as no footage I cant say but his record is nothing impressive. It would appear that you consider fighters from nowadays to be shit and are just including champions of old.
    You said name 10, nothing else about footage or whatnot where does it imply that I think fighters from nowadays are sh-t the funny thing is I haven't even mentioned guys like - R. Leonard, Hagler, Sanchez, Whitaker, Marciano, Charles, Moore, Saddler, Jofre, Arguello, Holyfield, Ike Williams, Gavilian, Chavez
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    I just thought it strange you not include one fighter from the last 30 years on your list of 10, which made me think you dont rate this generation. I may have been wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    I just thought it strange you not include one fighter from the last 30 years on your list of 10, which made me think you dont rate this generation. I may have been wrong
    Your a good dude Silkey and I'm enjoying the debate I think Floyd could have beaten almost anyone put in front of him in this era unfortunately he never fought these fights

    I would have liked to have seen Floyd clean out 130 against Casamayor and Frietas fights with Spadafora and Dorin (over Ndou and Sosa) Tszyu at 140 then Hatton instead of moving to 147 for Mitchell challenging Spinks for the championship and avoiding the whole necessity for the Baldomir-Judah situation after De La Hoya I would have like him to face Williams or Cotto but he retired when there were still challenges awaiting him (not forced like Leonard with his eyes or Ali with the courts) when he returned he did't fight the best (Pacquiao) like Leonard did against Hagler at middleweight btw
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    Default Re: Floyd's resume.

    Quote Originally Posted by La Cucaracha View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    I just thought it strange you not include one fighter from the last 30 years on your list of 10, which made me think you dont rate this generation. I may have been wrong
    Your a good dude Silkey and I'm enjoying the debate I think Floyd could have beaten almost anyone put in front of him in this era unfortunately he never fought these fights

    I would have liked to have seen Floyd clean out 130 against Casamayor and Frietas fights with Spadafora and Dorin (over Ndou and Sosa) Tszyu at 140 then Hatton instead of moving to 147 for Mitchell challenging Spinks for the championship and avoiding the whole necessity for the Baldomir-Judah situation after De La Hoya I would have like him to face Williams or Cotto but he retired when there were still challenges awaiting him (not forced like Leonard with his eyes or Ali with the courts) when he returned he did't fight the best (Pacquiao) like Leonard did against Hagler at middleweight btw
    casamayor and frietes never wanted any...nor did Tszyu.

    Zoo said he'd fight the best...then chose Hatton

    Cotto not once tried to get Floyd in the ring back then...he just admitted it before their fight.

    "Arum not once mentioned fighting Mayweather"

    Cotto said himself he NEVER asked or pushed for the fight.

    Williams...lol....never had anything Floyd wanted..if he did he would have easilly taken it.

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