Floyd's resume.

[Silkeyjoe]

Look the fact is he beat the top guys in 130 and 135 then at 147 he beat the top guys at the time. At 154 he beat Cotto, Ginger and Hoya top guys at that weight class one the mw champ now. When he came back he beat Jmm with ease same guy who went on to get robbed against pac then knock him out. Mayweather is atg not the greatest but a atg anyone who thinks others wise is a tool and knows nothing of boxing. You do not have to have him as the greatest but to say he is not a atg means you should pack your shit and look for a new sport to watch.

Mayweather is a Hall of famer not an all time great I struggle to see him breaking the top 25 if not 30

To resort to the old "you know nothing about boxing" is just sad and forums are meant for debating the sport right you have opinion, I have an opinion. But debate like an adult son

What do you mean? top 25 or 30 of all time? Surely that makes him an ATG then?

[La Cucaracha]

I consider Floyd one of the best 25 - 30 fighters ever. And as I've said throughout this thread he is a fantastic fighter who could have beaten almost everyone around his weight in this era I think he is a first ballot hall of famer I think he is among the best ever but not among the top 10 all time greats

Unfortunately for one reason or another he missed fighting some of the best fighters in his divisions at there best/ peaks

That is where the issue lies without fighting these guys there is no real proof what may have occurred no matter what we say we don't know for sure. Look at his struggle with Castillo, arguably a loss, he arguably could have been disqualified against Judah

I remember reading recently @cyclone talking up Russell like he was the next coming of Robinson and we all saw what happened there. That is why they say "they fight the fights"

Unlike Leonard and Hearns or Whitaker and Chavez Floyd failed to face to face Pacquiao when it mattered Not blaming either guy but others of the past have managed to get it done

I've mention the Wright fight falling apart at the last minute Floyd was going to move from 140 to 154 to face Wright who had just beaten Trinidad and would be coming down from 160 a move like that would have been amazing and something the Pretty Boy of 130 and 135 would have done

I had defended Mayweather's record after he moved from 135 for years but when he choose to retire instead of pushing to get the Cotto fight done and came back against a lightweight instead of facing the guy considered the best in the weight and the number one P4P I'd had enough

[VG_Addict]

What if Floyd faced Andrade, Lara if he beats Canelo, Cotto at MW, or Danny Garcia?

[Mr140]

When did anyone here say he was top 10 i said he was a atg you said he was not atg now you are saying he is top 25 or 30. The highest i can give Mayweather is top 15 lost i can give is 30 i do not think anyone said he was top 10 in these thread. My number 10 is Leonard i don't see Pac or Mayweather going there or past him really. Reason being Leonard is just as skilled as Mayweather i think more offensivly skilled and better resume also Pac can't really touch Leonards resume either so thats what keeps them out of the top 10 for me.

[La Cucaracha]

When did anyone here say he was top 10 i said he was a atg you said he was not atg now you are saying he is top 25 or 30. The highest i can give Mayweather is top 15 lost i can give is 30 i do not think anyone said he was top 10 in these thread. My number 10 is Leonard i don't see Pac or Mayweather going there or past him really. Reason being Leonard is just as skilled as Mayweather i think more offensivly skilled and better resume also Pac can't really touch Leonards resume either so thats what keeps them out of the top 10 for me.

I said he is one of the best ever (top 25 to 30) never said he was an all time great. I consider the all time greats those among the top 10 If your going to push it out further then where do you stop top 50? Top 100? top 1,000?

[Mr140]

I think a sport that has been around over a 100 years and has a lot of eras can have a top 50 being the cut off. When most do a list like ring or espn it is a top 100 list. This sport has been around for a fucking long time if you reach the top 30 you can be called a atg i think that is perfectly logical.

[La Cucaracha]

I think a sport that has been around over a 100 years and has a lot of eras can have a top 50 being the cut off. When most do a list like ring or espn it is a top 100 list. This sport has been around for a fucking long time if you reach the top 30 you can be called a atg i think that is perfectly logical.

I'm not faulting your opinion I'm just telling you what I consider an all time great like I've said all along - Floyd was/ is amazing and certain fights would have left no doubt about his brilliance

Think about how we would view Ali if after his forced layoff he came back but never fought Frazier Leonard if he had never fought Hearns and instead moved up Whitaker if the Chavez fight was never made

[Silkeyjoe]

What if Floyd faced Andrade, Lara if he beats Canelo, Cotto at MW, or Danny Garcia?

Danny Garcia is the most pointless fight for Floyd to take. Hes a plodder that Mayweather has no problems with and is also probably smaller so not going to be stronger then Floyd, would be the biggest bitch move by Floyd in his career if he was to fight him. Porter or Thurman are the guys he should be fighting if he is going to give a young guy a shot.