Leonard-Hearns 1989 Supermiddles-vs-2014 Top Dogs. Fact.

[Mr140]

I feel the draw was ok with the rematch i wish the fight was a 15 rounder because Leonard would of fucking knocked Hearns out. I fell both do fine against the current crop Hearns was pretty leget with win over Hill and others. But Leonard and Hearns were kinda past thier best days and above best weight which was ww but they had alot of skill. Ward would be the hardest test but i think Hearns and Leonard would cause him problems especially hearns he was hard to out box really fucking hard to out box need to go for the ko most of the time.

[Spicoli]

I was ok with the draw, never saw it a robbery either. Both were on the tail end. Hell I'm still not convinced Hearns really beat Kinchen . I think Ward does better than the others and hypothetically could top those versions.

[THE THIRD MAN]

SRL wins all of them by UD

Hearns wins all of them, KO's most of them

Hagler wins all of them, KO's most of them

Monzon wins all of them and gets arrested for murder.... again !

[Dark Lord Al]

SRL wins all of them by UD

Hearns wins all of them, KO's most of them

Hagler wins all of them, KO's most of them

Monzon wins all of them and gets arrested for murder.... again !

Yes indeed.

[Silkeyjoe]

Id struggle to see Leonard or Hearns beating these guys. Leonard fought twice at super middle and one at light heavy. At super middle he fought Duran and Hearns. Duran coming to the end of his career and should never have gone so high in weight and Hearns while probably bigger at the weight was still not a natural super middle. The super middles would be too big and too strong for Leonard in my opinion. Id say Froch stops him, Ward smothers him and stops him late or by UD. He may grind out points wins over the others but could also see them stopping him.

Hearns, in my opinion, didnt fight anyone of note at the higher weights. Again I think the stronger guys nowadays would stop him at super middle or light heavy.

[Dark Lord Al]

Id struggle to see Leonard or Hearns beating these guys. Leonard fought twice at super middle and one at light heavy. At super middle he fought Duran and Hearns. Duran coming to the end of his career and should never have gone so high in weight and Hearns while probably bigger at the weight was still not a natural super middle. The super middles would be too big and too strong for Leonard in my opinion. Id say Froch stops him, Ward smothers him and stops him late or by UD. He may grind out points wins over the others but could also see them stopping him.

Hearns, in my opinion, didnt fight anyone of note at the higher weights. Again I think the stronger guys nowadays would stop him at super middle or light heavy.

He fought and outpointed an unbeaten Virgil Hill at LHW .

[Silkeyjoe]

Id struggle to see Leonard or Hearns beating these guys. Leonard fought twice at super middle and one at light heavy. At super middle he fought Duran and Hearns. Duran coming to the end of his career and should never have gone so high in weight and Hearns while probably bigger at the weight was still not a natural super middle. The super middles would be too big and too strong for Leonard in my opinion. Id say Froch stops him, Ward smothers him and stops him late or by UD. He may grind out points wins over the others but could also see them stopping him.

Hearns, in my opinion, didnt fight anyone of note at the higher weights. Again I think the stronger guys nowadays would stop him at super middle or light heavy.

He fought and outpointed an unbeaten Virgil Hill at LHW .

Im not sure Virgil Hill was that good and he also wasnt that big a puncher. It was a big win for Hearns but i wasnt overly impressed by him in it and then he went and lost in his next fight. I also believe Stewart left him after the Hill fight and thought he should retire.

Im not argueing who the better P4P fighters were I just dont think the guys could cope with the size and power of todays super middleweights. For example Hill weighed in at 173 for his fight v Hearns so I dont imagine he was more then 180 in the ring. Light heavies like Stevenson are probably close to 200 in the ring.

[Beanflicker]

I don't think they match up particularly well. And before people say "BUT ITS RAY LEONARD AND HEARNS", yeah, but by '89 they were both years out of their prime and quite honestly both guys weren't even true SMW's. SRL weighed in at 160 and Hearns at 162.

The SMW guys today are just too big for them to be as effective as they were IMO, and they were too far out of their primes when they were at SMW.

[Beanflicker]

Andre Ward would have eaten '89 SRL alive.

[Fenster]

No supermiddle in history would have "eaten SRL alive"

He was clearly not a supermiddle but watch that 89 fight and picture him against todays crop. He's wiping the floor with all but a few of the current top 10.

Just like modern great fighters like Floyd can give weight away so could have Leonard.