Lets talk running...

[Spicoli]

Too hit and not get hit IS the key but does anyone do it a bit toooo much?

Surely for the last championship rounds in the biggest fight of his life Lara could have pushed the boat out a bit..or did he play it to safe?

For the networks and deserved payday? Rigo, who is being blackballed and forced to fight on f'n Unimas next out.

[ruthless rocco]

Did Lara really expect to beat boxing's next Golden Boy by landing 107 punches and running away all night? Did he really think that he could take 3 rounds off and just straight run away and get rewarded for it?

Lara is the kind of fighter who thinks he's better than everyone else. He believes it when people tell him what a spectacular pure boxer he is, and about how much more talented and gifted he is. The truth is his fights are often lack lustre because he doesn't think he has to push himself. He seems to get bored or lazy in the ring thinking that he's schooling his opponents and then he just coasts or sleep walks through rounds expecting to win.

Only a fool would have thought that that performance was good enough to have the judges go against boxing biggest rising star.

[Maravilla2012]

Did Lara really expect to beat boxing's next Golden Boy by landing 107 punches and running away all night? Did he really think that he could take 3 rounds off and just straight run away and get rewarded for it?

Lara is the kind of fighter who thinks he's better than everyone else. He believes it when people tell him what a spectacular pure boxer he is, and about how much more talented and gifted he is. The truth is his fights are often lack lustre because he doesn't think he has to push himself. He seems to get bored or lazy in the ring thinking that he's schooling his opponents and then he just coasts or sleep walks through rounds expecting to win.

Only a fool would have thought that that performance was good enough to have the judges go against boxing biggest rising star.

He still landed more than Canelo

[IamInuit]

Good Shields interview

Video: Lara's Trainer Furious With Canelo Outcome - Boxing News

[Gandalf]

It isn't pretty, but it's a skill. Not everyone can fight like an astronaut piloting a rocket ship to the moon. You use what you have to get the job done over 12 rounds. Some fighters do this defensively, it is just a fact of life. It's not pretty, but you cannot just say 'He's running, man! No points this round for him!'. It's juvenile.

[bcollins]

I get the point many of you are trying to make, but isn't there a limit? My problem with Lara was that he frequently threw a jab or two punch combo, retreated all the way to the other side of the ring, threw a jab, circled to the far side again, threw a jab or two, etc. Is it truly necessary to move quite so far in order to "not get hit"? It's tantamount to one of the gimmicks in pro wrestling where the heel will wait outside the ring until the good guy comes over, run around to the other side, roll in and out immediately, run around to the other side, etc. It's a farce. I'm sorry, but that takes very little skill and for me does not qualify as defensive wizardry, or "sweet science." Lara has a lot more skill than what he showed last night.

[Gandalf]

Sure, it isn't fun to watch, but if boxing is about hit and not be hit, then Lara did a better job than Canelo. It's not my idea of a fun time at all, but that's where the man who wins the fight then goes on to find that he can never really build a fan base. That is then about commerce. You deserve to win the fight as you technically did, but the fans will then respond by saying 'You don't deserve my support as you didn't give me what I want'. My point is simply that you cannot penalise the fighter for not being fan friendly in that particular fight. There is no scoring criteria for being 'fun'. Let the market dictate what happens to the fighter, but don't ever take away a fighters win as he was simply doing what he could to win and wasn't cheating or breaking the rules.

[IamInuit]

I get the point many of you are trying to make, but isn't there a limit? My problem with Lara was that he frequently threw a jab or two punch combo, retreated all the way to the other side of the ring, threw a jab, circled to the far side again, threw a jab or two, etc. Is it truly necessary to move quite so far in order to "not get hit"? It's tantamount to one of the gimmicks in pro wrestling where the heel will wait outside the ring until the good guy comes over, run around to the other side, roll in and out immediately, run around to the other side, etc. It's a farce. I'm sorry, but that takes very little skill and for me does not qualify as defensive wizardry, or "sweet science." Lara has a lot more skill than what he showed last night.

Did you happen to see Lara's fight with Trout? I have it on file as a sleep aid. That is because they are both southpaws and fight behind the shoulder in a wide stance inclined to wait and counter while working and enticing off the jab. It was Lara vs Lara. They are not Floyd but they feed in the same area. He's not all of a sudden going to drop how he fights and meet Alvarez face first in the pocket to satisfy a segment of the audience that is only concerned with highlight reels. Lara does not come forward. That is not how he fights. You dont get points for coming forward nor is that on its own effective aggression and standing in the telephone both and banging with a banger is neither intelligent or ring generalship. There is a reason for that squared circle.

It does not matter my friend whether its pretty or not and again if people dont want them to use the ring then lobby for it to shrink. I mean why do they need 20 square feet for when you could front the thing in a doorway? Again its not the decision that frustrates me. Its how it was arrived at. I mean there are swing rounds but there is also using swing rounds as an excuse for bad cards. Had it went the other way people would have said that Alvarez just couldn't get to him and Lara employed a great punch and get out strategy when in fact a 117/111 card for Lara would have been as equally absurd.

[Gandalf]

Good Shields interview

Video: Lara's Trainer Furious With Canelo Outcome - Boxing News

Good video.

Politics and sports is a toxic mix. Canelo's attitude also sucks. If he wants to be in a streetfight, then have one, but in boxing you face styles and a defensive style does not deserve to lose based on being defensive and some political edict that you must land 30% more or score a KO. It's bullshit and 117-111 is flat out nonsense. There should really be an immediate rematch. If not then fans should wave those pictures of Oscar banner size at every Golden Boy event.