Scientific Fraud

[bcollins]

And I still want to see your argument to support your claim.

You'll be waiting for my own personal data for a while chief...but I could just throw random numbers out there and it would be just as wrong as all these disaster predicting computer models.

Here I was thinking that you knew propaganda when you saw it....seems you only recognize it when you want to

That's where you are monumentally incorrect. Throwing out random numbers is the equivalent of the science being bandied about on a lot of the websites you frequent. Mathematical modeling is a very precise science. A good modeler is acutely aware of the limitations of the model, all simplifying assumptions being taken into account, etc. We perform rigorous sensitivity analysis on all parameters (to see if that miniscule "trace" you like to babble about actually matters or not). The modeling techniques of this decade are already light years ahead of what were used last decade - and it will be the same for the next decade. The models are only getting more and more accurate.

But you just go ahead and discount the countless hours put in by people whose IQ is higher than your body weight.

Here I was thinking that you knew propaganda when you saw it....seems you only recognize it when you want to

Propaganda can be tricky to recognize. But that's the nice thing about science, if you have a modicum of understanding about it: it speaks for itself. That's why I wanted you to do your own analysis, in order to see what the data tells you.

That's the difference between you and me here. I can distinguish between good science and bad science to a much greater degree than you (thank God). I can also determine for myself when someone is presenting bad science in a purposefully misleading way. This is propaganda, and the fact that you can't see it is very understandable. You can't even do simple high school level data analysis.

Oh, but of course you are qualified to judge the correctness of an entire professional scientific community.

[El Kabong]

If it's so precise then why have they not been accurate? IE all these scientists are shocked and amazed that the warming trend had not continued in decades (as shown by the aforementioned link to NOAA admitting such)....why were they caught so off guard...I mean IF those models are so accurate that is