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It's not crazy to want to see GGG in against Ward or Froch or Junior - all guys at 168 or above. I don't put down guys for not wanting to move up in weight class. For example, it would have been great for Floyd to jump up to 160 to challenge Sergio like Cotto did, but I don't knock him for not doing it. It can improve legacy but it doesn't detract from legacy. won't knock GGG for not moving up to face the guys at 168.
It's also not crazy to want to see him in against the best of the division that's he's currently in including Cotto or Kid Chocolate, or the division below him, including Mayweather or Canelo.
That's why for me I'd like to see him in with all of the above. How hype would a Cotto-GGG fight be at MSG?
ElFinito was banned? When did this happen?
Bigger man George, bigger punch!
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If you are comparing GGG to Floyd, that's ridiculous from the get go. Floyd is an established great. GGG is only recently on HBO. Floyd's a PPV star and has held the p4p title for literally years. GGG just made the list, if he's even on it. If you are upset that people are anointing him the next great thing until he's proven it, I understand that to an extent (remember Broner?). Proksa, Macklin, Geale, Stevens, Adama are good quality wins over top ten opponents, but there's no one who is great on that list. At the same time, he's just now turning into a burgeoning star. He's not on PPV. He's not making Canelo, Cotto, Mayweather money.
He should want to establish a legacy and he's doing it now by cleaning out the division and knocking people out in spectacular fashion. That's exactly how to establish a legacy, as is becoming the lineal middleweight champion, the "man" in the division. When I analyze legacy, I always look at if the guy was the "man" in the division.
I think we should hold him to the same standards as we hold other comparable fighters. For example, Ward has cleaned out the division and I have called on Ward to move up to face Hopkins, Stevenson and Kovalev because there is no one else in the super middleweight division for him to face. He's literally beat everyone.
Without wins over Cotto and Kid Choc., and to a lesser extent, Soliman, however, GGG can't be said to have cleaned out the division. Cotto is the lineal middleweight champion and Kid Chocolate and Solimon are other belt holders in it. @cyclone - is your point that you think GGG beats everyone at 160 and 154 easily so he might as well move up? Because, I'm not sure I agree, I think Mayweather and Cotto might give GGG a lot of problems and if we're talking about legacy, beating Mayweather and Cotto, proven greats, definitely would add to GGG's legacy, were he to be able to do it.
If it were me, I'd like to see him face all three guys and then move up to Froch and Junior or Kessler, begin cleaning out super middleweight, grow into the weight naturally, become a more-recognized star and then take on Ward. Would I be upset with a huge Ward-GGG fight now? Not at all, of course.
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By the way, Ring Magazine does not have GGG on their p4p list.
I agree, Ward would be a tough fight for GGG. Ward could do a lot to nullify GGG power but it would be great to see how ggg handles Wards style. Cotto v Golovkin would be the shit. Two guys who will not back down regardless of what's going on. If it were anywhere near what I have in my mind it could be a fight of the year candidate.
Kid Choclate would be good to see but I'm big on Quillin and fear he would not do to well against my boy. I don't see GGG backing down from anyone. I think he would fight Floyd tomorrow given the chance but at this point I don't see GGG. Having the ability to do much against Floyd at this point in his career.
I know GGG catches some shit here for various reasons but I seriously think he is going to be a superstar. He is a lot more than power and develops with each fight. I could name a number more I'd like to see him fight but those I feel would be the most interesting
I just don't think anyone beats him at or below 160 pounds, to the point where I don't even care to see it. Cotto and Floyd won't go anywhere near him. Honestly liked the idea of his fighting Chavez Jr for a first opponent at 168, just to tell us how he handles the weight/brings his power up etc, and to see Jr get beat up of courseBika would also be a good way to break into the division. After that absolutely Froch and Ward are the superfights for me.
Why should Floyd go near GG??
Mayweather is a WW.
A better question would be why won't GG go near Andre Ward.
Floyd has moved up from 130 to 154 pounds....winning titles along the way...and you make him out to be a coward.
GG on the other hand..
Is hailed as this beat yet hasn't moved up once and isn't interested in doing so.
You GG fans have to stop calling Floyd.....or anybody....a coward.
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Who do you think wins between Ward and GGG? Do you think GGG has a solid shot at upsetting the "man" at 168? You must think that if you are pushing so much for the fight. Me--I'm not so sure. I think part of GGG's success at 160 is his power and strength and Ward knows how to smother power well. It would be a good fight but I have to favor Ward.
What are you talking about? I would never call any top fighter a coward and I agree with all that! Floyd is tiny compared to Golovkin and has never held anything above 150 pounds very well, that's why he shouldn't take the fight. Golovkin going after Ward would be asmaller ask and I'd like to see it, but it's still asking him to give up advantages and do the same thing. It's easy to see why Golovkin would hope to fight Cotto before having to throw all his chips in like that. You talk about his age or w/e, but that's all the more reason he needs to start getting the big money. None of these guys we're talking about are afraid to fight period, how about you just leave that alone.
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