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    Default Best inside fighter to learn from?

    Apart from Henry Armstrong? Also, exclude Tyson

    Any theory of infighting like the centerline theory?
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    There ius some great footage of some real greats;
    Mike McCallum
    James Toney
    Roberto Duran
    Bernard Hopkins

    Battling Torres was terrific.
    Pipino Cuevas was very good inside.
    Hank Armstrong was a machine.
    Shame that we dont have na lot of footage of Greb.
    The eras of LaMotta, Basilio, Zale and Fulmer saw some vicious inside fighting - but was a bit blood & guys for my liking.
    The 90's had some good inside fighting - Chavez for aggression and Whittaker for more slick stuff. Michael Nunn could do it and do it well.
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    Default Re: Best inside fighter to learn from?

    Watch Buddy McGirt. How he would pull in, left shoulder first. How he would let his hands go and then tie up or turn the guy and get out.

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    Default Re: Best inside fighter to learn from?

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Watch Buddy McGirt. How he would pull in, left shoulder first. How he would let his hands go and then tie up or turn the guy and get out.
    Well, I will, apparently, when studying Whitaker, but Buddy is not the super top fighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NVSemin View Post
    Well, I will, apparently, when studying Whitaker, but Buddy is not the super top fighter.
    Super top fighters.
    I assume you are referring to the elite.

    These fighters are gifted. If you look at the "creme de la creme" there is always something a little exceptional. Handspeed, Punching Power, reflexes, stamina, Foot speed...
    They are blessed with that little bit more physically.

    However- it is the ordinary athlete that achieves highly who demonstrates the best technique and the best appreciation of the sport.
    McGirt is a better coach than Whittaker... coincidence?

    James Toney was an A-level fighter.
    Roy Jones was the A+

    But if I could have the skill set of either fighter- I'd pick JT 10/10.
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    I've been thinking on this a bit. I think that studying southpaws fighting inside is counter-productive. Generally it is a bad spot for a leftie to be as he loses the advantages of angles. Like LaMotta said, in close they are all the same. Even southpaws like Andy ganigan- who liked to get close and fight- weren't inside fighters. He did his damage coming in, more than inside.
    Maybe Chiquita (Humberto) Gonzalez. He fought mostly southpaw and liked to fight in close. For style points, Georgie benton, Emile griffith. Sandy Saddler and Little Red Lopez were tall guys that could fight in close, and Saddler knew all the tricks. The Charles Williams v James Toney fight was fought real close.
    watch for things guys do at that range. How you can pull/push his glove aside to land a punch. chavez used to do this- hit a guy's right elbow with his left glove to mis-direct a punch.

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    Default Re: Best inside fighter to learn from?

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Watch Buddy McGirt. How he would
    pull in, left shoulder first
    . How he would let his hands go and then tie up or turn the guy and get out.
    walking in with his shoulder pointed towards his opponent?

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    Default Re: Best inside fighter to learn from?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
    Watch Buddy McGirt. How he would
    pull in, left shoulder first
    . How he would let his hands go and then tie up or turn the guy and get out.
    walking in with his shoulder pointed towards his opponent?
    Not 'walk', you never walk in boxing. When he- Toney did this as well, among others- would come behind a jab, for example, he'd pull in close, his left shoulder in the opponent's chest. It is easy not to get hit in that spot. His right hand is behind you and you pick your right glove up to block his left, which you can see coming because you are looking right at it. You are also in a very good spot to do what you want to do offensively.

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