Broner v. Taylor; Matthysse v. Ortiz; Garcia v. Salka; Peterson v. Santana?

[Master]

I think having another promoter like Hayman will mean more meaningless mandatory’s and best fighters not fighting one another.

I'm hoping Hayman turns out better than everyone seems to think.

We always do hope but it never happens.

[J_Undisputed]

It could be stand to be argued from a promotional standpoint that all these guys (the headliners) need to be repolished so to speak. As for peterson, i think its the end of the line for him personally. Hes pretty much already a gatekeeper. Matthyse's demolition of peterson snuffed out his light for anyone not from the dc area.

Broner's still seen as a pretender by many. After being exposed by Maidana, The comeback performance were not emphatic enough to declare him "back" to any pre-whooping status. Which has always been broners problem. His body and performances cant catch up to his mouth. If he shut his mouth, the last to fights could be seen as a positive indication from a kid whos on the right track after being humbled.

Matthyse's loss to garcia (eye or no eye) took some of the shine off of him and i'd honestly like to see how he responds after being dropped by a middle weight molina early in that fight. Has it affected his chin at all? Matthyses chin is part of his mystique and the confidence behind it puts him in a position to land those bombs.

And Garcia... after those two lack luster performances and all .. you cant really call it ring rust as he was fighting consistently. I think the luster has worn off, whether he was allowed to keep the belt or not.

With a new network, they probably want to set up big fights and ppv's on a platform that will boost showtimes viewership and bottom line. So they probably want them peaking from that popularity aspect when they pair them up again, because at least 2 are cashing out and probably going downhill after that. We know one is probably peterson. I could see haymon trying to market the all hip hop bling bling, getto fab match up between garcia and broner. Friends turned enemies competing across many levels. Fast talking Angel garcia vs. Stuttering broner who can never quite deliver any quips despite rehearsing. Reps, girls, etc etc. Disses about each others raps and lip syncing etc etc. Some serious stars have to be aligned for that one to max out though. Garcia has to start knocking guys out again instead of going life and death with them. Broner has to grow up and be more action before he can talk all that garbage. People have to like these guys from a fight standpoint and a promotional standpoint. (it would be a plus for broner if between now and then Floyd retired and is mouthing off from broners corner... that would turn this into a full wwe type circus.)

[Rantcatrat]

It could be stand to be argued from a promotional standpoint that all these guys (the headliners) need to be repolished so to speak. As for peterson, i think its the end of the line for him personally. Hes pretty much already a gatekeeper. Matthyse's demolition of peterson snuffed out his light for anyone not from the dc area.

Broner's still seen as a pretender by many. After being exposed by Maidana, The comeback performance were not emphatic enough to declare him "back" to any pre-whooping status. Which has always been broners problem. His body and performances cant catch up to his mouth. If he shut his mouth, the last to fights could be seen as a positive indication from a kid whos on the right track after being humbled.

Matthyse's loss to garcia (eye or no eye) took some of the shine off of him and i'd honestly like to see how he responds after being dropped by a middle weight molina early in that fight. Has it affected his chin at all? Matthyses chin is part of his mystique and the confidence behind it puts him in a position to land those bombs.

And Garcia... after those two lack luster performances and all .. you cant really call it ring rust as he was fighting consistently. I think the luster has worn off, whether he was allowed to keep the belt or not.

With a new network, they probably want to set up big fights and ppv's on a platform that will boost showtimes viewership and bottom line. So they probably want them peaking from that popularity aspect when they pair them up again, because at least 2 are cashing out and probably going downhill after that. We know one is probably peterson. I could see haymon trying to market the all hip hop bling bling, getto fab match up between garcia and broner. Friends turned enemies competing across many levels. Fast talking Angel garcia vs. Stuttering broner who can never quite deliver any quips despite rehearsing. Reps, girls, etc etc. Disses about each others raps and lip syncing etc etc. Some serious stars have to be aligned for that one to max out though. Garcia has to start knocking guys out again instead of going life and death with them. Broner has to grow up and be more action before he can talk all that garbage. People have to like these guys from a fight standpoint and a promotional standpoint. (it would be a plus for broner if between now and then Floyd retired and is mouthing off from broners corner... that would turn this into a full wwe type circus.)

Another good post by @J_Undisputed . I disagree a bit, but I see the point.

Garcia didn't need re-polishing after beating Matthysse. Instead, he's looked bad against guys he was supposed to beat. Why did they go that route and not capitalize on the win by unifying with Peterson etc.? Also, what better way to re-polish than beating Broner or Peterson? Same goes for Broner, what better way to rebound from lackluster opponents than beating a big name.

I actually disagree about Peterson. He is coming off a solid win against the Canadian (forget his name). Styles make fights, right? Matthysse was wrong for Peterson. Garcia is a closer fight in my opinion if Peterson's chin holds up. Broner is definitely winnable.

I understand rebuilding Matthysse.

Perhaps the strategy here is to put Garcai against Peterson and Broner against Matthysse at the end of the year. If that's the case, I get it, I guess. I still complain about the holding pattern we've been in with the junior welterweights, but what can we do?