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Yes, but not because I think he committed any impeachable offence, I just enjoy the drama
How about the unchecked border? NSA spying on everyone? Benghazi? Heck, even destroying Libya. Protecting opium growth in Afghanistan? Many more in the link above.

Drama is fun, but for me, Obama needs to be dealt with now and a few lessons learnt. Then ideally Rand Paul can move in and clean up some of this chaos.
The border has been undefended by every other prez too. The Benghazi "scandal" is just something the GOP are using as a fundraising/get out the vote tool, it's not an actual scandal or anything like it. Compare Libya and Iraq. Which prez started the NSA spying on everybody situation? You can't impeach one guy or where do you stop? How many ex-presidents do you go after too?
Bush should obviously have been impeached, but the fact that Obama made so many promises and broke all of them, in some ways makes him even worse. Though obviously they are two peas in an extremely tragic and unlikeable pod.

It is a very slippery slope to ever be saying 'Well, he did that and he got away with it, so we cannot be punishing anyone now'. Is that really how you want the world to be? After all Bush got away with it, so let's just allow even more corruption, fix nothing, and warp the system even more, and of course make everyone suffer along the way. After all, Bush did bad things too! Surely it gets to a point where you have to say 'No more'. After all what comes next? Nuclear war? The complete eradication of the middle class?Oh, of course it should be illegal to feed the homeless and collect rainwater. Once you start down that path, where does it end? 'After all the Jews were only being asked to wear stars on their clothing. Don't be racist.

Of course Bush should have been punished for his crimes against the constitution and the world, but what we know now is far more devastating. Sure, Bush started the mass surveillance, invaded countries, suckled the teat of finance, dismantled the constitution etc, but we know Obama continued it and he is the man representing this system and the buck stops with him considering he pardoned Bush for his crimes. You cannot be completely ignorant of everything going on in your country, but seemingly he is. Therefore, he is not fit to govern or lead. Or maybe he isn't and likewise, he isn't fit to govern or lead.