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    Default Re: 1973 George Foreman vs 1986 Mike Tyson

    I'm actually thinking Tyson by points. Both would take a lot to be hurt but would both get there by around round 7 or 8 by which point both have been boiled down enough to fight in fits and spurts. Maybe a coupe of knockdowns, whatever way they go but no stoppages and Tyson looking the sharper and more effective, hence points win.
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    Default Re: 1973 George Foreman vs 1986 Mike Tyson

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    I'm actually thinking Tyson by points. Both would take a lot to be hurt but would both get there by around round 7 or 8 by which point both have been boiled down enough to fight in fits and spurts. Maybe a coupe of knockdowns, whatever way they go but no stoppages and Tyson looking the sharper and more effective, hence points win.
    Agree Tyson and Foreman had very good chins so they may have taken the brutal punches and it going to a points decision, like Tyson v Ruddock, if no one was obliterated early on when they are both fresh and strong.
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    Default Re: 1973 George Foreman vs 1986 Mike Tyson

    Point 1;
    Two men with a lot in common.
    Brutal power, Unbridled aggression and a menacing aura made them perhaps the two most intimidating fighters in history.
    (I'd put those stares before even Dempsey and Hagler.)

    Therein lies the advantage.
    Both thrived on the fear they could instill in opponents.
    Every fighter feels nerves and fear before they fight.

    George Foreman said that his knees were shaking when he stood in front of Joe Frazier.
    He didnt show it. Their first fight was a grotesque display of power. Foreman's power.
    Tyson's psyche was less concrete.
    We all remember the story of him crying before his am fights. In his entire career Tyson never beat a fighter of the golden era calibre.
    (Holmes was well spent and Spinks wasn't a HW.)

    When nose to nose with the much larger Foreman how would Tyson react when faced with a man just as "bad" as himself, void of any fear and with nothing but bad intentions.

    Point 2;
    People often forget that George could box.
    He has often expressed regret that he is remembered as the slugger outfoxed by the Greatest. He actually aspired to box like SRR or the Cassius Clay that beat SL.
    He is rarely commended for his Olympic Gold Medal. not easily won.

    If that arguement fails me;
    If James Douglas had enough power, Foreman could have done the job quicker.
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    Default Re: 1973 George Foreman vs 1986 Mike Tyson

    excellent analysis Donny

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    Bloody good point Donny
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    Tyson was a brute not unlike Foreman, both feared by there opponents, they meet in
    the ring, no nicety's just pure hatred of each other.
    The speed and combinations of Tyson V the brute power of Foreman to close to call
    this sit on the fence and enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimanuel Boogustus View Post
    Bloody good point Donny
    Donny knows nothing.

    Tyson does not stand there and get hit like Frazier. Mike punched and moved to the sides and explodes with even more combinations. Tyson was elusive and you could counts on one hand the amount of times he was caught clean.
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    Default Re: 1973 George Foreman vs 1986 Mike Tyson

    1-Lets be honest, the 1973 George Foreman could not box his way out of a doorway. Yes he won the Olympic gold but he clubbed the majority of his opponents out who were overcome by his size. He sports a 22-4 amateur record with most of his wins ending in similar fashion.
    2-He never beat one golden era hev in their prime outside of Frazier but let’s be honest here again, I love Joe Frazier but he was a one handed fighter.
    3-Yes he wiped Norton out but Nortons cross armed crab like drag one foot come forward style was perfect for big George. Not only that, Kenny was coming off 2 twelve round wars with Ali that took place in 6 months.
    4-Tyson was most likely the fastest hev in history, had no neck with some of the best head movement for a big man that I have ever seen. He had great feet and could come off either side with bone crushing power

    5-Cus D’amato’s math;

    1 - Left hook to head.
    2 - Straight right to head/right hook to head.
    3 - Left uppercut.
    4 - Right uppercut.
    5 - Left hook to body.
    6 - Right hook to body.
    7 - Jab to head.
    8 - Jab to body.

    Tyson would mix 5 and 6 punch combinations in any order of those numbers possible with bad intentions on every shot.

    Not only was that not the same Tyson in the Douglas fight but that Buster Douglas was perfect on the night and was not going to be denied. I'm not convinced that it would have mattered who was in front of him regardless of the blimp that showed up against Holyfield.

    No offense to George as he was a freak in many ways but he’d think he was fighting a crowd.

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