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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    This death is all over the news. His final weeks seem a mystery. Some say he finally went to rehab just to make sure he was okay, the others say he was drinking and went back. Then on coming out, no real sightings of him and then this. I wonder what pushed him over the edge. Anything else going on in his life? Health perhaps? The poor, poor man.
    wonder if it was the prospect of having to make Mrs Doubtfire 2 ?

    God knows. Crazy world
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    He was making 4 new movies, and I had noticed the news of him going to rehab and all...substance abuse and depression can sink you quickly. They are foes who are unrelenting and unforgiving

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    Although this story has played itself countless times it's still hard for me to fathom how all that money and fame doesn't dull the pains of depression and can still lead the wealthy to such despair. I've had some hard fought battles in life, can't say suicide never crossed my mind but I've seen what it can do to family and friends left behind. I've had a couple friends take there own life's and it is so utterly tragic. I hope Mr. Williams family takes some solace in laughter he brought to so many

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Although this story has played itself countless times it's still hard for me to fathom how all that money and fame doesn't dull the pains of depression and can still lead the wealthy to such despair. I've had some hard fought battles in life, can't say suicide never crossed my mind but I've seen what it can do to family and friends left behind. I've had a couple friends take there own life's and it is so utterly tragic. I hope Mr. Williams family takes some solace in laughter he brought to so many
    It's complex Walrus. We are all unique and it is hard to know what is going on with someone we know so little about. It is hard to know what sets someone off. Funnily enough yesterday was a bad day for me. I had read too much news and was thinking about my homeland and how horrid it has become there and just the thought of that and a general malaise got to me and for the first time in a long time I had thoughts of harming myself. I didn't and was fine, but depression when it really takes you will just take you. It's just a shame that Williams had to go through this. He had got this far now, but he was hyper sensitive and damaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Although this story has played itself countless times it's still hard for me to fathom how all that money and fame doesn't dull the pains of depression and can still lead the wealthy to such despair. I've had some hard fought battles in life, can't say suicide never crossed my mind but I've seen what it can do to family and friends left behind. I've had a couple friends take there own life's and it is so utterly tragic. I hope Mr. Williams family takes some solace in laughter he brought to so many
    It's complex Walrus. We are all unique and it is hard to know what is going on with someone we know so little about. It is hard to know what sets someone off. Funnily enough yesterday was a bad day for me. I had read too much news and was thinking about my homeland and how horrid it has become there and just the thought of that and a general malaise got to me and for the first time in a long time I had thoughts of harming myself. I didn't and was fine, but depression when it really takes you will just take you. It's just a shame that Williams had to go through this. He had got this far now, but he was hyper sensitive and damaged.
    Oh heaven forbid someone else gets talked about for 2 seconds

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by walrus View Post
    Although this story has played itself countless times it's still hard for me to fathom how all that money and fame doesn't dull the pains of depression and can still lead the wealthy to such despair. I've had some hard fought battles in life, can't say suicide never crossed my mind but I've seen what it can do to family and friends left behind. I've had a couple friends take there own life's and it is so utterly tragic. I hope Mr. Williams family takes some solace in laughter he brought to so many
    It's complex Walrus. We are all unique and it is hard to know what is going on with someone we know so little about. It is hard to know what sets someone off. Funnily enough yesterday was a bad day for me. I had read too much news and was thinking about my homeland and how horrid it has become there and just the thought of that and a general malaise got to me and for the first time in a long time I had thoughts of harming myself. I didn't and was fine, but depression when it really takes you will just take you. It's just a shame that Williams had to go through this. He had got this far now, but he was hyper sensitive and damaged.
    Oh heaven forbid someone else gets talked about for 2 seconds
    On that basis, I should mute and run to the covers. I was only trying to give some insight into how a truly depressed mind can work. Depression is universal. And is a condition created by the world that too many are forced to tolerate. Nothing more. Williams couldn't take it anymore. That was all I said.

    I happen to believe that upbringing is the cause of most mental illness and thus suicide in the long run. We are actively making people ill. That is not self promoting, it is simply saying that there are many with bad childhoods.

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    I just can't come to grips with the overall acceptance/legitimization/glorification of suicide.

    I understand what mental illness and depression are, but it's hard for me to not find it completely selfish and cowardly when a mind capable of rational thought - regardless of how troubled it is - decides to commit suicide, knowing full well the extensive, LASTING psychological damage you're going to inflict on your loved ones and people who depend on you.

    When it's shown in the media, we are told to feel bad for the suicide "victim". We talk about suicide like it is an inevitable conclusion for a lost/troubled soul, and not a conscious decision. I call bullshit.

    The whole world is so scared of being stigmatized as ignorant, unsympathetic, ect that we are forced to swallow a lot of bullshit because it's the popular thing to believe. No thanks. The real victims are his family and friends, who will live the rest of their lives with the pain of wondering "did I do enough? Could I have saved him? Did I not show him enough love? Was I not there for him when he needed me?", ect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    I just can't come to grips with the overall acceptance/legitimization/glorification of suicide.

    I understand what mental illness and depression are, but it's hard for me to not find it completely selfish and cowardly when a mind capable of rational thought - regardless of how troubled it is - decides to commit suicide, knowing full well the extensive, LASTING psychological damage you're going to inflict on your loved ones and people who depend on you.

    When it's shown in the media, we are told to feel bad for the suicide "victim". We talk about suicide like it is an inevitable conclusion for a lost/troubled soul, and not a conscious decision. I call bullshit.

    The whole world is so scared of being stigmatized as ignorant, unsympathetic, ect that we are forced to swallow a lot of bullshit because it's the popular thing to believe. No thanks. The real victims are his family and friends, who will live the rest of their lives with the pain of wondering "did I do enough? Could I have saved him? Did I not show him enough love? Was I not there for him when he needed me?", ect.
    That's mental illness for you though, people who are suffering from depression or other mental illnesses don't stop and think about how suicide can torture the people that love them...or about how it will affect them emotionally, psychologically. The depressed don't think of suicide as such a selfish gesture, but rather as the only way out. They feel like their only chance at stopping the downward spiral is to stop life itself....the only way to put the brakes on the world is by getting out of it.


    Suicide is the most selfish thing a person can do...it takes no guts to do that, it takes guts to wake up each day and live, face your adversity head on. That's brave, that takes courage...but we are mere mortals, we can break, and things like this happen. I hate that someone so funny, so caring, such a loving person thought that this was his only way....people would have given Robin anything, shirts right off their backs!

    But part of the trouble with humans is that very seldom can we see ourselves the way our loved ones see us....this is all a shame.

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    Bullshit. You are speculating and know nothing. You can only take it on a case by case basis. And you are making too many guesses.

    Plus the humanitarian Lyle has nothing in common with 'they deserve to die' Lyle.

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    #Morgue&Mindy

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