Wow Robin Williams Dies

[Gandalf]

We have arguably negotiated peace and being pretty tired that's enough for me.

Godnight, all.

[Beanflicker]

He was a fantastic talent - a known joke thief, but a funny, talented guy none the less. Him committing suicide doesn't change my opinion that he was a comedic juggernaut, great actor, and by all accounts a warm, loving, overall good dude.

My thoughts on suicide are pretty concrete though. I 100% support the stuff Jack Kevorkian was doing. We all should have the right to decide whether or not we want to live anymore, and if you're terminally ill, in constant pain, ect I think there's nothing wrong with it and probably something I would avail of myself if I was in that situation.

People always say "well you didn't know what he/she was going through", "you should walk a mile in their shoes" and other cliches. FUCK THAT. I don't care what anyone is going through mentally, whether it is hard times or actual clinical depression. If you have a family and loved ones, you owe it to them to plough through and try to work your shit out.

I read a quote where someone compared a depressed person committing suicide to a person who jumps out of a burning building to their death because they can't handle the fire/smoke. I just don't see it that way and I don't care who thinks I'm ignorant. Man up and work your shit out.

[Gandalf]

He was a fantastic talent - a known joke thief, but a funny, talented guy none the less. Him committing suicide doesn't change my opinion that he was a comedic juggernaut, great actor, and by all accounts a warm, loving, overall good dude.

My thoughts on suicide are pretty concrete though. I 100% support the stuff Jack Kevorkian was doing. We all should have the right to decide whether or not we want to live anymore, and if you're terminally ill, in constant pain, ect I think there's nothing wrong with it and probably something I would avail of myself if I was in that situation.

People always say "well you didn't know what he/she was going through", "you should walk a mile in their shoes" and other cliches. FUCK THAT. I don't care what anyone is going through mentally, whether it is hard times or actual clinical depression. If you have a family and loved ones, you owe it to them to plough through and try to work your shit out.

I read a quote where someone compared a depressed person committing suicide to a person who jumps out of a burning building to their death because they can't handle the fire/smoke. I just don't see it that way and I don't care who thinks I'm ignorant. Man up and work your shit out.

Bollocks. Unless you have put 30 stitches in your arm or cut your neck, then who are you to judge? Maybe you just don't understand depression. It is very complex and emerges from all kinds of experiences. Unless you have the same scars, then you likely don't understand the mind that can commit suicide.

[Beanflicker]

Bollocks. Unless you have put 30 stitches in your arm or cut your neck, then who are you to judge? Maybe you just don't understand depression. It is very complex and emerges from all kinds of experiences. Unless you have the same scars, then you likely don't understand the mind that can commit suicide.

Yeah? Do I also have to have lusted sexually for little kids to judge pedophiles? Do I have to have tried to murder someone before I can judge murderers?

Do I have to study culinary arts before I can comment about the food I eat at a restaurant?

The whole "who are you to judge" thing that ALWAYS comes up is nonsense and is the biggest cop out.

No one is saying depression is a cake walk. I'm saying it doesn't justify suicide. Never. It's selfish and I don't care how much pain you are or you think you are in. Selfish, self-centered. The coward's way out.

[ryanman]

He was a fantastic talent - a known joke thief, but a funny, talented guy none the less. Him committing suicide doesn't change my opinion that he was a comedic juggernaut, great actor, and by all accounts a warm, loving, overall good dude.

My thoughts on suicide are pretty concrete though. I 100% support the stuff Jack Kevorkian was doing. We all should have the right to decide whether or not we want to live anymore, and if you're terminally ill, in constant pain, ect I think there's nothing wrong with it and probably something I would avail of myself if I was in that situation.

People always say "well you didn't know what he/she was going through", "you should walk a mile in their shoes" and other cliches. FUCK THAT. I don't care what anyone is going through mentally, whether it is hard times or actual clinical depression. If you have a family and loved ones, you owe it to them to plough through and try to work your shit out.

I read a quote where someone compared a depressed person committing suicide to a person who jumps out of a burning building to their death because they can't handle the fire/smoke. I just don't see it that way and I don't care who thinks I'm ignorant. Man up and work your shit out.

You're ignorant.

By the way 'Hard times' and depression are in no way comparable.

[El Kabong]

Depression can get it's hooks in you and drag you to a level where you don't know your ass from your elbow...and it can happen in an instant. People who don't understand that need to be aware of it at least if for nothing else knowing how to react if someone they love is going through such a time.

Depression doesn't just attack the weak, it attacks people who assume they are strong, it attacks people who ARE strong, people with friends, people without friends, it doesn't discriminate.

Imagine the saddest you have ever been, turn that up a few hundred notches, and then heap on some anxiety and then put things just enough out of sync to where you have more arguments, more misunderstandings, you can't sleep, you have no energy, you can't focus, your mind races.....and to know that you may never come out of that state......it'll break you if you let it.

People can describe the feeling different ways, it's like drowning, it's like being crushed, it's like having a bad premonition that you can't stop...imagine your brain reenacting the throws of death an antelope goes through as a cheetah suffocates it or a crocodile drags it into the river.....those few seconds of struggle, panic, fear....that's what can run through someone's brain for days, weeks, months at a time.

It's not pleasant for those suffering with it, nor for those around that person....suicide is selfish, but think about the pain one has to go through to push them to that extreme...it's anguish

[Beanflicker]

I've heard it all, I have no doubt depression is horrendous, but it'll never justify suicide to me.

There are tons of people living with depression, coping day to day. To accept suicide as a legit ending for someone suffering from depression is to claim that depression is a death sentence, which I think is a dangerous concept.

[El Kabong]

I've heard it all, I have no doubt depression is horrendous, but it'll never justify suicide to me.

There are tons of people living with depression, coping day to day. To accept suicide as a legit ending for someone suffering from depression is to claim that depression is a death sentence, which I think is a dangerous concept.

Suicide is never justifiable to other people...only to those battling demons like depression or substance abuse. Those people get worn down because "coping day to day" with depression or substance abuse is a battle, it's a battle to just "act normal" when you're dealing with depression.

It is a battle man....and it can be very scary

[Beanflicker]

It is a battle man....and it can be very scary

No doubt, but at the end of the day the man who doesn't do what's right for his family, the man who intentionally inflicts emotional pain on them is the weak man.

[Beanflicker]

You're ignorant.

By the way 'Hard times' and depression are in no way comparable.

How am I ignorant, and where in my post did I say that hard times = depression?