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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    To be honest does it really mater, Calzaghe was a great fighter, you fight were you want
    if you don't like to travel outside your Country so what.!!!
    Remember the Klits make big money in Europe, they don't need America,! to be honest in
    America it's like a circus, you have to sell and hype yourself up.
    In Europe fighters are making good money, Hopkins would not dream of fighting in Europe,
    I mean he may not get one of his loved up referee, to help him out.

    Remember your a star in your own Country, to most that's all that counts, remember home
    town decisions happen here and in America.
    America at one time ruled pro boxing, but not so much now, things change the out look
    change, Look at Froch V Groves fight, how many people attended that fight, would you get
    that in the states theses days.!!

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    Lennox Lewis. As Ross said.
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    What Americans can draw as big a crowd as Calzaghe, Hatton and Froch?

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    The one who eventually became the most loved and accepted as a star everywhere, was probably Kostya and thats amazing when you think of the Russian US rivalry and how hard headed some old people were over it as he headed into the pro circuit ,that proved boxing stood alone on such things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What Americans can draw as big a crowd as Calzaghe, Hatton and Froch?
    Even a log of shit will draw flies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    What Americans can draw as big a crowd as Calzaghe, Hatton and Froch?
    I could give you a list as long as my arm, but that's not what this thread is supposed to be about, right?

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Only a few fighters ever achieve star status and by that you could define as having mainstream mass appeal and PPV sales, even Americans. Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage. They are few and far between.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.
    Naz had a six-fight $12 million deal with HBO, his American debut with Kevin Kelley, packing out Madison Square Garden, broke the all-time gate record for a featherweight fight, he ended his USA career at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas on PPV against a fighter that had never previously been on PPV. It did 310,000 buys.

    Barrera-Morales II - 290,000 buys.
    Barrera-Morales III - 300,000 buys.
    Barrera-Marquez - 225,000 buys.

    Even with the popularity Barrera got from beating Naz, and facing genuine great American based Mexican fighters, the PPV numbers still came up short of the Naz fight. Naz was the A-side.

    Naz = US "star." Fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.
    They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

    Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.
    Mainstream appeal is appearing on chatshows is it not?

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    Most European fighters are the shits, the best come from North America. That's what's up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Most European fighters are the shits, the best come from North America. That's what's up.
    Feeling a little constipated, aren't you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Most European fighters are the shits, the best come from North America. That's what's up.
    Feeling a little constipated, aren't you!
    Unlike Europe, which has been churning out tons of shit forever.

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