The Andre Ward issue from 10 Players

[Beanflicker]

EDIT: Nevermind, I read up on the situation and am now 100% anti Goosen.

[Rantcatrat]

It's easy to say it's Goosen's fault. On the other hand, Goosen did a great job with Ward's career. None of the major promotional players signed Ward out of the Olympics. Let that sink in. Ward doesn't have the most fan-friendly style. Goosen got him into the Super Six and got him big pay days against guys that weren't going to be competitive. He got paid something like $2.5MM for his fight against Edwin Rodriguez. Compare that to GGG's $700k for fighting Geale. It's tough to feel sorry for Ward.

By the way, Haymon will never sign Ward because Ward is with James Prince, and they don't get along.

[Beanflicker]

It's easy to say it's Goosen's fault. On the other hand, Goosen did a great job with Ward's career. None of the major promotional players signed Ward out of the Olympics. Let that sink in. Ward doesn't have the most fan-friendly style. Goosen got him into the Super Six and got him big pay days against guys that weren't going to be competitive. He got paid something like $2.5MM for his fight against Edwin Rodriguez. Compare that to GGG's $700k for fighting Geale. It's tough to feel sorry for Ward.

By the way, Haymon will never sign Ward because Ward is with James Prince, and they don't get along.

I thought that way too until I read this...

Chris Mannix: A bitter contract dispute comes at a bad time for Andre Ward - MMA - SI.com

Leonard was the one doing the work for Ward and building him up while Goossen was the figure head. Knowing that, it's hard for me to side with Goossen and fault Ward, especially for standing up for his friend.

[Master]

That article is a load of nonsense. If he wants to pay Leonard, he can do it from his own purse. Sakio Bika, James DeGale and Anthony Dirrell are not bad names. Ward needs to just fight. He has been "tapped up" by a promoter promising him millions when in reality he should knuckle down and continue fighting.

[Beanz]

The Flood gates may turn out to be merely a trickle if you are an old man. Sort it out.

[Beanflicker]

That article is a load of nonsense. If he wants to pay Leonard, he can do it from his own purse. Sakio Bika, James DeGale and Anthony Dirrell are not bad names. Ward needs to just fight. He has been "tapped up" by a promoter promising him millions when in reality he should knuckle down and continue fighting.

They are pretty weak names, considering Ward is the absolute undisputed #1 in the division and almost universally recognized #2 p4p fighter in the world. He wants mega fights and who can blame him.

[ykdadamaja]

That article is a load of nonsense. If he wants to pay Leonard, he can do it from his own purse. Sakio Bika, James DeGale and Anthony Dirrell are not bad names. Ward needs to just fight. He has been "tapped up" by a promoter promising him millions when in reality he should knuckle down and continue fighting.

They are pretty weak names, considering Ward is the absolute undisputed #1 in the division and almost universally recognized #2 p4p fighter in the world. He wants mega fights and who can blame him.

Sometimes we have to wait for mega-fights. Floyd didn't just start to command certain fight- he had to fight a ton of guys, from Corales to De LahHoya, to get the ability to call the shots.

At the rate Ward is going- he's going to be the B-side of the fights he signs on to.

[Rantcatrat]

I don't know. He got paid $2.5mm for fighting Edwin Rodriguez!

If the beef is between Leonard and Goosen, why didn't Leonard sue Goosen? If Leonard is the issue, pay Leonard the money that Goosen allegedly took from him and fight for Goosen until the contract expires.

It seems a lot like Ward is just trying to get out of his contract with Goosen because he doesn't want to be signed to Goosen. Plain and simple.

Moreover, two wrongs don't make a right. He had a contract with Goosen that a court has ruled is valid and now he is going back on fulfilling the contract.

Also, look at who he calls out: a middleweight and Chavez Jr. He says that a fight with the winner of Dirrell and Bika is a step back and that he won't face Kovalev. Really?

At the end of the day, fighters fight.