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    Default Re: If 'Smokin Joe' Frazier Retired In 1972

    Quote Originally Posted by ykdadamaja View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    'Smokin Joe' Frazier

    'Lil' Joe,

    After dismantling and crashing Muhammad Ali in March 1971, Joe was really not interested in
    continuing with Boxing anymore.

    Bouts with;
    Floyd Patterson, Jimmy Ellis, Jose L. Urtain and Jerry Quarry were discussed for late-1971 and 1972.

    Experts agree, had 'Smokin Joe' retired in mid-1972, he would have been considered as one of the
    Top 5 Heavyweights of All Time.
    Smoking Joe was blind in one eye. He beat Ali based on the sheer inactivity of Ali at even a medium level.

    When Frazier got in there with a real live guy like Ali the second time or with Foreman, he got smashed.
    Ali smashed Frazier? When?

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    Default Re: If 'Smokin Joe' Frazier Retired In 1972

    Joe was the undisputed champion when he beat Ali and made about 4th highest number of defences of the title. He was effectively finished after the Ali fight which was his ultimate performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Joe was the undisputed champion when he beat Ali and made about 4th highest number of defences of the title. He was effectively finished after the Ali fight which was his ultimate performance.
    ali and frazier finished each other off on march 8, 1971 at MSG......they both left their souls in the ring that night. they were both merely shadows of their former selves after that.

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    Default Re: If 'Smokin Joe' Frazier Retired In 1972

    Quote Originally Posted by brocktonblockbust View Post
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    Joe was the undisputed champion when he beat Ali and made about 4th highest number of defences of the title. He was effectively finished after the Ali fight which was his ultimate performance.
    ali and frazier finished each other off on march 8, 1971 at MSG......they both left their souls in the ring that night. they were both merely shadows of their former selves after that.
    What is remarkable is that Ali still had the rumble in the jungle and the thriller in manilla in him.
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    Default Re: If 'Smokin Joe' Frazier Retired In 1972

    What an odd post/thread to start.

    If James J Jeffries had not tried to come back against Jack Johnson .....
    If Jack Dempsey had retired after fighting Carpentier ......
    If Mike. Tyson had retired after beating Spinks ......

    Or even If Riddick Bowe had retired after beating Holyfied ......
    If Micheal Moorer had retired before fighting Foreman .......
    If Herbie Hide had retired before fighting Vitali ......

    Or

    If Marciano had retired after fighting Archie Moore. Oh, wait a minute ....
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    Default Re: If 'Smokin Joe' Frazier Retired In 1972

    Or Roy Jones retired after he beat Ruiz.
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    Default Re: If 'Smokin Joe' Frazier Retired In 1972

    Quote Originally Posted by X View Post
    What an odd post/thread to start.


    If Herbie Hide had retired before fighting Vitali ......
    With the other examples you used that is pretty odd point too!
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    Default Re: If 'Smokin Joe' Frazier Retired In 1972

    Quote Originally Posted by greynotsoold View Post
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    'Smokin Joe' Frazier

    'Lil' Joe,

    After dismantling and crashing Muhammad Ali in March 1971, Joe was really not interested in
    continuing with Boxing anymore.

    Bouts with;
    Floyd Patterson, Jimmy Ellis, Jose L. Urtain and Jerry Quarry were discussed for late-1971 and 1972.

    Experts agree, had 'Smokin Joe' retired in mid-1972, he would have been considered as one of the
    Top 5 Heavyweights of All Time.
    Smoking Joe was blind in one eye. He beat Ali based on the sheer inactivity of Ali at even a medium level.

    When Frazier got in there with a real live guy like Ali the second time or with Foreman, he got smashed.
    Ali smashed Frazier? When?
    lolol... beaten man. Beaten.
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    Default Re: If 'Smokin Joe' Frazier Retired In 1972

    'Smokin Joe'

    Reached his physical peak in 1969.

    Broke right ankle in 1970, while performing in Las Vegas.

    Experienced high-blood pressure problems in 1970.

    Suffering from vision problems.

    Bouts with the following fell though.
    * Buster Mathis II {1969}
    * Jerry Quarry II {1969}
    * Sonny Liston {1969}
    * Leotis Martin {1970}
    * Jose L. Urtain {1971}
    * Floyd Patterson {1971}
    * Jimmy Ellis II {1971/1972}
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 09-16-2014 at 09:56 PM.

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