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    Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?
    Hook to the body or head?

    There really is no such punch as a right hook. A right hook really isn't a real punch. A right hook is either called a looping right to the head (which usually misses or ineffective) or a wild swing to the body- which anyone can do.

    There is no such intrigue in a right hook.
    Bro, the way you appear to look at boxing comes across as naive/ ignorant/ idiotic.

    No such thing as a right hook

    The Right Hook for orthodox fighters really is just the right hand. There is no science to it. May as well say right hand to the body or head.

    A straight right is distinguished because we call it a straight right. I know you can have a "right hook", but for orthodox fighters it really and truly is the most mundane punch that really anyone can throw.

    It's the very first punch one is inclined to throw for orthodox fighters. Why have a special discussions for it?
    Anyone who is first inclined to throw a right hook you should tell to get out of the gym because they have no natural feel for fighting. The first punch you should be incline to throw is the jab , the second you should be inclined to throw is the straight right, the third you should be inclined to throw is the left hook, I can go on and on. I don't understand how you can be so damn wrong all the time. Not like a little wrong. Like it is so damn wrong it has to be intentional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Anyone who is first inclined to throw a right hook you should tell to get out of the gym because they have no natural feel for fighting. The first punch you should be incline to throw is the jab , the second you should be inclined to throw is the straight right, the third you should be inclined to throw is the left hook, I can go on and on. I don't understand how you can be so damn wrong all the time. Not like a little wrong. Like it is so damn wrong it has to be intentional.
    It's not about what punch you're inclined to throw first it's about being open and being ready to land a punch with either hand from any angle.....certainly there's "science" to THAT aspect of it. The plain simple fact that fighters RARELY if ever expect a right hook from an orthodox fighter ought to have you thinking "Well, it's the punch they don't expect, and it's a punch that can pack a wallop so why not put it in your arsenal"

    The right hook to the body (FROM an orthodox fighter AGAINST an orthodox fighter) drops the lead hand, it also stiffens a fighter up and slows them down.

    A right hook to the head (FROM an orthodox fighter AGAINST an orthodox fighter) is something that can end or start to end a fight.

    Mike Tyson's entire style, Jack Dempsey's entire style, Floyd Patterson's entire style, based on the quick shifting of weight from side to side which created a natural slipping motion and allowed for loading up on punches without taking up time or telegraphing the delivery of punches makes GREAT use of the right hook and justifiably so! All of those guys threw the right hook and when it landed (and it landed often) it either was a set up for the knock out blow or it was THE knock out blow. If you take away the right hook from those fighters then their style simply does not work because what is there to be afraid of as the fighter slips to the right...a straight right hand? Have you ever thrown punches on a bag using that style? You simply can't get the same pop AND you won't affect your opponent's defense as much....land a little wider and all of a sudden there's an open window for the right cross but without the right hook you don't open that window for yourself.

    Right hooks from an orthodox fighter against a southpaw can be even more effective as that punch squares up on a southpaw and can send them reeling.

    If you completely dismiss the right hook for orthodox fighters then you're A) dumb as shit and B ) taking a useful weapon out of your own arsenal.

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    Are there any (right handed orthodox) fighters that you can think of, who were exceptionally good at setting up/ hiding the right hook?
    Hook to the body or head?

    There really is no such punch as a right hook. A right hook really isn't a real punch. A right hook is either called a looping right to the head (which usually misses or ineffective) or a wild swing to the body- which anyone can do.

    There is no such intrigue in a right hook.
    Bro, the way you appear to look at boxing comes across as naive/ ignorant/ idiotic.

    No such thing as a right hook

    The Right Hook for orthodox fighters really is just the right hand. There is no science to it. May as well say right hand to the body or head.

    A straight right is distinguished because we call it a straight right. I know you can have a "right hook", but for orthodox fighters it really and truly is the most mundane punch that really anyone can throw.

    It's the very first punch one is inclined to throw for orthodox fighters. Why have a special discussions for it?
    Anyone who is first inclined to throw a right hook you should tell to get out of the gym because they have no natural feel for fighting. The first punch you should be incline to throw is the jab , the second you should be inclined to throw is the straight right, the third you should be inclined to throw is the left hook, I can go on and on. I don't understand how you can be so damn wrong all the time. Not like a little wrong. Like it is so damn wrong it has to be intentional.
    Nonsense. Throw a guy in off of the streets into a ring for the first time, or even the second time and third time, the most inclined punch he is willing to throw is his right hand.

    You LEARN to throw the left jab first because of training to set up the right hand- but in reality, for mere mortals, your first punch is your right hand. Automatic. No one should have to tell you that.
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