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    Default Re: Should Scotland stay in the UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Can't help but feel that the No vote was a missed opportunity for progress on these British Isles. The promises of the three "leaders" in Westminster are disappearing quicker than a Dominos pizza at the office, and the cynic in me can't help feeling that Crooked Dai is feeling very pleased with himself right now. If he doesn't follow through on his promises of more powers....he might lose a whole MP from Scotland! He has no incentive to really try and push it through, and the other two don't have the numbers to send those powers north. The usual smoke and mirrors disappears to leave empty promises once again.

    Feeling very down and depressed today after last night's results, went to bed at four as it was clear which way it was going to go. I don't see any changes coming for the next General Election, just the usual bunch of posh boys voted in by scaremongering that the left would take away their rose and canapes budget by raising taxes. And even if Labour does get in again, which is unlikely with Miliband in charge, they're not even the left any more. The last Labour government was almost as bad for the working man as the Tories.
    Well mate I hope Plaid never get in,! just a bunch of Welsh speaking Tories same outlook on privatising everything NHS included. I totally agree Labour have lost there working class values.
    But I am for democracy that's what the people of Scotland had, and they voted to stay in the Union
    this is not football or rugby, this is serous stuff Nationalism DON'T PAY THE BILLS.

    This moment in time Scotland gave a NO vote, who Knows in 10 years down the road they may have a chance, to vote again, but they have to take note of the 1 million plus yes voters.
    Hopefully more powers for Scotland and Wales, this may be the start of more regional government
    for all the UK, which I feel people would like.

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    Default Re: Should Scotland stay in the UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Can't help but feel that the No vote was a missed opportunity for progress on these British Isles. The promises of the three "leaders" in Westminster are disappearing quicker than a Dominos pizza at the office, and the cynic in me can't help feeling that Crooked Dai is feeling very pleased with himself right now. If he doesn't follow through on his promises of more powers....he might lose a whole MP from Scotland! He has no incentive to really try and push it through, and the other two don't have the numbers to send those powers north. The usual smoke and mirrors disappears to leave empty promises once again.

    Feeling very down and depressed today after last night's results, went to bed at four as it was clear which way it was going to go. I don't see any changes coming for the next General Election, just the usual bunch of posh boys voted in by scaremongering that the left would take away their rose and canapes budget by raising taxes. And even if Labour does get in again, which is unlikely with Miliband in charge, they're not even the left any more. The last Labour government was almost as bad for the working man as the Tories.
    Well mate I hope Plaid never get in,! just a bunch of Welsh speaking Tories same outlook on privatising everything NHS included. I totally agree Labour have lost there working class values.
    But I am for democracy that's what the people of Scotland had, and they voted to stay in the Union
    this is not football or rugby, this is serous stuff Nationalism DON'T PAY THE BILLS.

    This moment in time Scotland gave a NO vote, who Knows in 10 years down the road they may have a chance, to vote again, but they have to take note of the 1 million plus yes voters.
    Hopefully more powers for Scotland and Wales, this may be the start of more regional government
    for all the UK, which I feel people would like.
    Agree with you about Plaid, while they are the only nationalist party in Wales they are also just a little bit too strange to want in charge of anything. Do you remember their policy of "A laptop for every child"? Nationalism itself won't pay the bills, but are you saying that we need to continue being the poor relation so that we can get crumbs from the English table? There are so many things the Wales could use as a resource were we to get independence. We can start off by charging everyone in the north for drinking our bloody water. Put it in bottles, price it about 10p less than Evian, and all of Beanz's friends up in the Monaco of the North will be lapping it up.

    Now that the threat of independence is gone, Cameron has no reason whatsoever to offer anything more than a few more measly morsels, the 1.6 million voting for independence would never have voted for his shower of shit anyway. If I'm ever offered the choice for a vote on whether I'd like to continue being the country with the security of a minimum wage survival type existence that we get as a part of the UK, or the chance to become something bigger and better independently, I know where my vote would go. I'd rather be standing unhindered and free on the deck of the Titanic rather than being chained to the English dining table in main hall.

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    Default Re: Should Scotland stay in the UK?

    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by superheavyrhun View Post
    Can't help but feel that the No vote was a missed opportunity for progress on these British Isles. The promises of the three "leaders" in Westminster are disappearing quicker than a Dominos pizza at the office, and the cynic in me can't help feeling that Crooked Dai is feeling very pleased with himself right now. If he doesn't follow through on his promises of more powers....he might lose a whole MP from Scotland! He has no incentive to really try and push it through, and the other two don't have the numbers to send those powers north. The usual smoke and mirrors disappears to leave empty promises once again.

    Feeling very down and depressed today after last night's results, went to bed at four as it was clear which way it was going to go. I don't see any changes coming for the next General Election, just the usual bunch of posh boys voted in by scaremongering that the left would take away their rose and canapes budget by raising taxes. And even if Labour does get in again, which is unlikely with Miliband in charge, they're not even the left any more. The last Labour government was almost as bad for the working man as the Tories.
    Well mate I hope Plaid never get in,! just a bunch of Welsh speaking Tories same outlook on privatising everything NHS included. I totally agree Labour have lost there working class values.
    But I am for democracy that's what the people of Scotland had, and they voted to stay in the Union
    this is not football or rugby, this is serous stuff Nationalism DON'T PAY THE BILLS.

    This moment in time Scotland gave a NO vote, who Knows in 10 years down the road they may have a chance, to vote again, but they have to take note of the 1 million plus yes voters.
    Hopefully more powers for Scotland and Wales, this may be the start of more regional government
    for all the UK, which I feel people would like.
    Agree with you about Plaid, while they are the only nationalist party in Wales they are also just a little bit too strange to want in charge of anything. Do you remember their policy of "A laptop for every child"? Nationalism itself won't pay the bills, but are you saying that we need to continue being the poor relation so that we can get crumbs from the English table? There are so many things the Wales could use as a resource were we to get independence. We can start off by charging everyone in the north for drinking our bloody water. Put it in bottles, price it about 10p less than Evian, and all of Beanz's friends up in the Monaco of the North will be lapping it up.

    Now that the threat of independence is gone, Cameron has no reason whatsoever to offer anything more than a few more measly morsels, the 1.6 million voting for independence would never have voted for his shower of shit anyway. If I'm ever offered the choice for a vote on whether I'd like to continue being the country with the security of a minimum wage survival type existence that we get as a part of the UK, or the chance to become something bigger and better independently, I know where my vote would go. I'd rather be standing unhindered and free on the deck of the Titanic rather than being chained to the English dining table in main hall.
    Westminster is at fault MP's are no longer grass roots politicians, weather your English, Welsh's,
    etc, many people all over the country are having crumbs, remember poor is poor a family living
    in poverty in Plymouth or Blackburn what is the difference,! none just geography.

    Trouble is we are ruled by the rich and privileged people, the old school tie brigade our economy
    has been fucked up, I remember telling some friends the economy cant' carry on like this, some years back people were borrowing money hand over fist.
    We are all in the shit in the UK, would independence make it any better for us No not one bit because we would still be in debt it would not disappear.
    I am a relist mate independence is not the be all end all, facts are you need money we are all pissing in a big pot, it's a lot better than pissing in a tea cup.!!!!!!!!!!
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