Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
Fritzie Zivick...everything the guy did was dirty.

Roberto Duran's thunderous uppercut to the balls vs Ken Buchannan wouldn't fly


Muhammad Ali's holding on the neck wouldn't fly and the rope-a-dope might not work as well because refs are very quick to stop fights these days

George Foreman's pushing would probably get a warning or two
I wonder about some of those. Floyd uses the elbow pretty effectively in his fights and he does tend to hold on the inside without penalty or even a warning.

Lennox used to and now Wlad hold smaller guys and lean on them. I feel that is one of the main reasons that Wlad has so many late knockouts. He punishes guys with his jab and combos, but he also exhausts them by leaning on them.

Hop, one of my favorites, breaks just about every rule there is. I live watching him do it, because he can be very clever, but he can be blatant also and use his head following a straight right and then clinching or pushing the other guy after.

Evander, another one of my favorites, used his head very effectively as a third fist. None of those guys mentioned were penalized often, although Hop was on the verge if a DQ loss vs Keith Holmes during their unification fight.

Honestly, I don't mind most of that stuff. It's a fight, it's supposed to be rough. To beat a prime Roy, Floyd, Wlad...etc., you need to make it ugly. Fast, technical boxers like that are very tough to deal with. Hop figured that out after his loss to Roy n learned to maul effectively and exhaust the other guy. He was too old to effectively implement it vs Dawson n Calzaghe, although he was much more effective vs Joe than Chad. Watching Hop take Joppy and Holmes apart showed me how far Hop had come. Not that those guys were on Roy's level, but just how he completely controlled that fight and nullified those guys' speed advantage.