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    Default Re: Anthony Dirrell- you're brave ain't ya?

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
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    Yep that's BS, it would be a good match and should happen. Anyone not named Ward or Froch has no business calling themselves a world champion at 168 anyways. The top two fighters in the division are very firmly established, everyone else should be gunning for them and without a sense of entitlement, or else hush about anyone else having earned anything.
    Anthony Dirrell-Arthur Abraham would be the worst major title unification fight of all time, possibly?
    That will be almost a nailed on certainty then. What is the point of mandatory fights when they are not enforced?
    I guess they can always keep guys in a mandatory spot for eons while trying to figure out what might bring in more money in the long run. It must be a coin toss for these bodies when they have a weak, unpopular champion. Do they try and line up crap mandatory's to milk the sanctioning fees, or throw him in a fight he'll lose in hopes the next champion will carry the belt as well and actually bring in revenue? I'm not clear on exactly how they go about fleecing boxers, as far as a percentage of purse vs a minimum fee for each fight, so it truly beats me.

    What is the point of mandatory challengers when you have 4 different champions in a division, and half of them get stripped annually no matter what, is more like it. How the hell did Ward and then Froch even lose the two belts these two fringe contenders are now carrying? If Abraham signed to fight either of those guys in a rematch, it would be a laughing stock. He didn't win a single round against either guy, yet he's a world champion in the same division currently? It's a joke.

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    Default Re: Anthony Dirrell- you're brave ain't ya?

    The sad thing is that a groves fight would be great for him. It's a solid opponent with a name and very winnable. There aren't too many better options at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    The sad thing is that a groves fight would be great for him. It's a solid opponent with a name and very winnable. There aren't too many better options at the moment.
    It's Winnable, but it's also very Loseable . that's his problem. in his defence, it's not just him, But if you're a World Champion , then every defence should be tough , because everyone who fights you is technically trying to become "the best in the World!" there should be no "stay busy" or "easier" defences because you're supposed to be "Champion of the World" and you should've had to work your bollocks off to get to that level. Maybe I'm too much of an idealist.
    The reason this pisses me off is because between him and his brother, they take a couple of years or more off, then he fights Bika twice (repeat loser at the highest level) and gets to call himself Champion of the World.
    What Fucking World is That?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    The sad thing is that a groves fight would be great for him. It's a solid opponent with a name and very winnable. There aren't too many better options at the moment.
    It's Winnable, but it's also very Loseable . that's his problem. in his defence, it's not just him, But if you're a World Champion , then every defence should be tough , because everyone who fights you is technically trying to become "the best in the World!" there should be no "stay busy" or "easier" defences because you're supposed to be "Champion of the World" and you should've had to work your bollocks off to get to that level. Maybe I'm too much of an idealist.
    The reason this pisses me off is because between him and his brother, they take a couple of years or more off, then he fights Bika twice (repeat loser at the highest level) and gets to call himself Champion of the World.
    What Fucking World is That?
    I'm fine with taking easier fights here and there but honestly the groves fight shouldn't be considered a super tough fight. Groves is a good fighter but not at all great. Bika is the same. A good fighter but not great. Direll hasn't really beaten anybody to show that he is that good. Beating groves is a step in the right direction, but he obviously doesn't want to go in the right direction.

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    Dirrell does not want to lose the title he won in a borefest. He wants to make some easy defences and money before handing the title over to someone more worthy than him.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Dirrell does not want to lose the title he won in a borefest. He wants to make some easy defences and money before handing the title over to someone more worthy than him.
    Dirrell would easilly beat Groves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corvette View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Dirrell does not want to lose the title he won in a borefest. He wants to make some easy defences and money before handing the title over to someone more worthy than him.
    Dirrell would easilly beat Groves.
    Well if he can beat Jack, we'll find out.

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    Default Re: Anthony Dirrell- you're brave ain't ya?

    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Primo Carnera View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by powerpuncher View Post
    The sad thing is that a groves fight would be great for him. It's a solid opponent with a name and very winnable. There aren't too many better options at the moment.
    It's Winnable, but it's also very Loseable . that's his problem. in his defence, it's not just him, But if you're a World Champion , then every defence should be tough , because everyone who fights you is technically trying to become "the best in the World!" there should be no "stay busy" or "easier" defences because you're supposed to be "Champion of the World" and you should've had to work your bollocks off to get to that level. Maybe I'm too much of an idealist.
    The reason this pisses me off is because between him and his brother, they take a couple of years or more off, then he fights Bika twice (repeat loser at the highest level) and gets to call himself Champion of the World.
    What Fucking World is That?
    I'm fine with taking easier fights here and there but honestly the groves fight shouldn't be considered a super tough fight. Groves is a good fighter but not at all great. Bika is the same. A good fighter but not great. Direll hasn't really beaten anybody to show that he is that good. Beating groves is a step in the right direction, but he obviously doesn't want to go in the right direction.
    I agree with everything that you say, and with that in mind, what I am about to write is going to make me wanna stick needles in my eyes! Groves, Bika, Dirrell are all ok, but never really beaten anyone top drawer. Abraham is crap now. Stieglitz - Average , Degale - Unproven and nothing special, Kessler - Probably finished and Ward - well we can't keep blowing sunshine up his ass if we don't know if/when he's ever going to fight again .
    So as much as I do not rate him at all, I have to say (this hurts!!!) that Carl Froch has to be seen as the stand out leader of this division by a country mile, mainly because he's the only one who's actually beaten anyone decent.
    I now actually feel like I've eaten a Shit Sandwich!!!!!!!!

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